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A man's work is never done
An interview with Arlie Hochschild, author of The Time Bind.
arlie Hochschild is a sociologist at the University of California’s Berkeley campus and the author of “The Time Bind.” Salon spoke with her recently.
The New York Times review of “The Time Bind” observed that your “calm, understanding tone” tended to disguise your book’s
alarming message. Were you alarmed by your findings about work and home?
Let me put it this way. I felt that there was something going on that
we haven’t clearly understood. I think the book itself is a story book.
There are a lot of different personal stories, and all of these are about
parents really trying to strike a balance. These are involved
parents. One single father described himself going to work and said it’s
just like a caffeine high, going from one meeting to the next until it got to be 5 o’clock, and finally he could sit down to his
real work. But it meant he couldn’t pick up his child until 6 or 6:30.
He said he felt like he wasn’t living his values. He moved me
tremendously; here was a good man and a good father, but he was caught in an imbalanced
life.
I guess I am a little bit worried, but not in the way the media has framed it. There was a horrible article on the cover of
U.S. News & World Report. That really threw
me back. I wrote a letter of protest to the editor. It introduced a very
accusatory tone. I felt it was a women-bashing tone.
Are you concerned that
your book is being interpreted as part of the backlash against feminism? Is there an implicit message that women should go home?
Am I concerned that it could be used that way? Yes. Is that what it
is? No, absolutely not. I see it as a call for an open, gentle, respectful, public conversation about what
steps we need to take to get a family-friendly workplace, more like they have in Sweden or
Norway — a 35-hour work week, work-sharing and so on. Motorola has done that in Arizona. In a way, this is crashingly
moderate. I am simply saying, look, knock two hours off on a Wednesday.
It would make it so much better for family life. That would be huge. Why not? Why can’t
we have that?
The “news” in “Time Bind,” as the New York Times put it, “is that growing numbers of
working women are leery of spending time at home.” Does this message, that more women are abandoning the home for work, let men off the hook?
Should we be more pointed in saying that men need to be more
responsible for the domestic maintenance of a family?
Yes, we do need to be more pointed about that. I think that is
exactly the direction that the conversation needs to take and actually
surveys show that children report that they want more time with their
fathers a lot more than they report that they want more time with their
mothers. Something like two-thirds
of kids say that they’d like more time with their fathers, and half of
them say they want more time with their mothers.
Let’s shape this article that way. Write about men. It really is true.
Do you think your book could have been more direct in pointing out men’s domestic responsibilities?
Yes, I think I could have.
Why didn’t you?
I wanted to end up with a non-gendered book. In a way this whole
family-friendly project is informally coded as a women’s project.
I wanted to de-gender it. Why I didn’t single out men is because I did
that in volume one of this study. “The Second Shift” is really all
pointed at men. Maybe I should have pointed at men twice, but in this
one … I could have probably made more of the men thing.
The time bind is in fact more a
man’s issue than a woman’s, because men have subtracted more time from
the home than women have but women are the ones who feel it.
They are expected to protect the home more. But all of us, men and women, have
to get ourselves out of what I call a “talk bind.” We can’t talk about
this without being guilt-tripped.
I think we really have to establish a safe, public place to
talk about this honestly. I would ask right-wing guilt-trippers to lay
off and detoxify this conversation, because it is an important one to
have in a safe, exploratory, non-guilt-trippy way. We are not alone in this.
It is a cultural issue.
Kate Moses is the author of "Wintering: A Novel of Sylvia Plath" (St. Martin's.) She was the co-founder, with Camille Peri, of Salon's "Mothers Who Think" site, and she and Peri also co-edited the award-winning book "Mothers Who Think: Tales of Real-Life Parenting." She lives in San Francisco. More Kate Moses.
Sleuthing for my father
On her death bed my mother revealed a shocking secret. Now I am trying to solve its mystery
(Credit: Zach Trenholm/Salon) Dear Advice,
The last thing my mom said to me was, “When I was young …” and then she died. I had no idea what she was trying to tell me. Then I found a letter she had written to a friend saying that the man she was in love with is my actual biological father.
My dad and I were in shock with the DNA results and now I have spent countless hours trying to find out who this man is. I can’t ask anyone as they are all dead and my dad said it must have been this guy who was in town for a short time while attending ammunition-inspector school in Savanna, Ill., but didn’t know a name.
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Where did the money go?
My parents went bankrupt twice. Suddenly I can't go to the college I want. They make good money. I don't understand
(Credit: Zach Trenholm/Salon) Dear Cary,
I am 24 years old. Sometimes I get so angry that it is hard to function. Other times I get very anxious and I feel like I am on the verge of a breakdown. I think it stems from my parents. I don’t know what to do, and I need your advice.
My father is an engineer for a large oil company, and my mother works in a doctor’s office. My father has always been steadily employed (although I have lived in three different states growing up because of his job). However, I feel like my family has always been struggling financially. This has deeply affected me, especially when I graduated from college in a time when jobs were difficult to find. One problem is that I am not sure why it is this way — they live in a nice house, but definitely not one out of their means. They do not buy nice cars, and we did not go on vacations growing up. They do not eat out very often or buy anything that would be considered luxurious.
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Me and baby, living at Mom’s
I got pregnant young, got married young and already we're separated. Now what?
(Credit: Zach Trenholm/Salon) Dear Reader,
I’m taking a little vacation down in Florida. It may be possible to conduct a couple of writing workshops while I’m down there, if a space and people can be arranged. I’ll be in Fort Lauderdale Thursday the 5th, then the Gainesville area from Friday the 6th until Sunday or Monday, and then back in Fort Lauderdale the 10th through 12th. Email me if you’d like to attend or help set something up. It would be great to meet some interested people and write together.
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I had to move back in with my dad
I'm a grown woman who lost her job. Now I'm living with a man who won't wash his hands
(Credit: Zach Trenholm/Salon) Dear Cary,
I need your help in determining if I am an ungrateful daughter or person reacting to a shitty situation. I am a 38-year-old woman who, like many Americans, has lost my job due to the recession. However, I do bartend part time. Needless to say, I was experiencing financial difficulties and because I couldn’t find a job I decided to attend school in an effort to make myself more employable. My father expressed how impressed he was with my educational endeavors and made me an offer that I could not refuse. He said that I could live in one of his rental houses until I was out of school and I would only be responsible for utilities. This was music to my ears. Within no time I was packing my bags and moving out of my apartment. I moved to the house and paid to get new carpet and tile installed as well as have the house painted. My father was working on getting the house up to code so that it would pass inspection and after the inspection he was supposed to go back to live out of state. Here it is one and a half years later and my father has not left. The carpet that I purchased is completely ruined and so are the tile floors.
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I’ve never had a drink in my whole life
Because of a family history, I've never touched a drop. And then there was a toast and we raised our glasses ...
(Credit: Zach Trenholm/Salon) Dear Cary,
I’ve read your column often, and I think you can help me since you yourself have dealt with the consequences of addiction.
I really don’t know who else to turn to with this particular problem since most self-help books don’t deal with people who don’t drink.
I am in my mid-20s. In a nutshell, I was raised as an only child in a single-parent home with an alcoholic mother, who self-medicated with wine to deal with depression.
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