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Peter Bogdanovich

The director of "The Cat's Meow" discusses the truth about "Citizen Kane," the philanderings of Charlie Chaplin and the lies Hollywood tells us about death and dying.

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Peter Bogdanovich

Sneering at Peter Bogdanovich’s name has been an art form in some circles for so long that when you meet the man, you expect the insufferable popinjay whom writers still have a field day skewering. This is the man who, according to the Los Angeles Times, sported $323 blue leather clogs in court just prior to filing bankruptcy in 1997. The man who married (and later divorced) his lover Dorothy Stratten’s half-sister Louise several years after Stratten was brutally murdered by her jealous husband. The man who stole Truffaut’s shtick by going from film scribe to filmmaker, and so on.

Even if some critics hailed early flicks like “The Last Picture Show” and “Paper Moon,” by the early ’80s most seemed to agree with John Simon’s acerbic assessment that Bogdanovich’s “entire filmmaking prowess is not much more than a mnemonic feat.” Whatever; in person, the 62-year-old is thoroughly charming, and lacks the pretense so often ascribed to him by caricaturists. Can a guy who schleps his own water around with him in a tote bag be all bad?

Moreover, his latest picture, “The Cat’s Meow,” is an elegant, entertaining little film detailing the famously puzzling 1924 cruise aboard William Randolph Hearst’s yacht, the Oneida; just a few days after, one of the passengers died mysteriously. Among those who were onboard: Hearst (Edward Herrmann); his paramour Marion Davies (Kirsten Dunst); her aspiring paramour Charlie Chaplin (Eddie Izzard); and the fly in the ointment, conniving producer Thomas Ince (Cary Elwes). Gossip maven Louella Parsons (Jennifer Tilly) and novelist Elinor Glyn (Joanna Lumley) round out the ship’s manifest. And Bogdanovich plays them all like a sly maestro. “Citizen Kane” it ain’t, but it’s fun to watch. Give the devil his due.

Do you think your old friend Orson Welles would have liked the film?

I hope so. I certainly felt his spirit around when we made it, watching. I don’t know about guiding me, but I think he was on our side. He was the one who told me the story in the first place. He told it to me over 30 years ago as an example of how different Hearst was from Charles Foster Kane. The general misunderstanding about “Citizen Kane” is that it was supposed to be about Hearst, but it wasn’t.

Charles Foster Kane was a composite character based on three or four press lords including a famous one in Chicago named McCormick, who built the Chicago Opera House for his girlfriend, who was a singer. That whole aspect of Kane had nothing to do with Hearst. And Orson didn’t play it like Hearst. Hearst was a kind of pear-shaped fellow who had a high voice and whose hair fell down over his forehead. He looked a lot like Edward Herrmann, but not as handsome.

How did Mr. Welles come to tell you the story?

I was interviewing him for the book we did, “This Is Orson Welles,” but we didn’t use it in the book because at the time, it seemed a bit incendiary. Interestingly enough, he heard the story from a member of Hearst’s inner circle — Marion Davies’ nephew Charles Lederer, the screenwriter. I talked to Charlie Lederer a few years later and he confirmed it. Charlie had known it since he was 12. That’s about how old he was when it happened. He confirmed this as fact, that there was this “accident” during the cruise.

How ironic that after Welles told you that story so long ago, you wound up directing this picture.

Yes, it was ironic. The script arrived on my desk 30 years later and neither the writer nor the producer had any idea that I knew anything about it … I don’t know if I would have read it with as much interest if Orson hadn’t told me. I often don’t read scripts that are sent to me, I have someone read them for me. This one I read on my own. I saw these characters in it and I thought, “My God, it’s that story.” So I owe it to Orson. If it hadn’t been for him, I might not have done it.

Your Hearst seems rather likable in some ways.

Actually, he’s pretty ruthless. But he’s human. It’s the humanity, I think, that makes you understand him. When you understand someone, it’s hard to hate them. If you get to know anybody, I suppose, you discover that people are good and bad and all the shades in between. Nobody’s all one thing.

Do you think people have changed much since that era, or do you think we’re all pretty much still the same?

Human nature stays the same, but maybe certain aspects of it get exacerbated. I think we’re in a more cynical era than ever before, and I think that the audience for movies, for example, has been somewhat debased and brutalized by the enormous amount of violence and slaughter on the screen. You sort of say, “Well, 30 people just got killed, so what’s next?” Having been, I’m afraid, part of a murder, when Dorothy Stratten was murdered, I can tell you that one murder reverberates for the rest of the life of the people who were close to that person. That’s one of the things about this picture, it’s about a murder that changes everything. One murder. Not three, not 10 — one.

So we’ve been “desensitized,” as they say.

Yes, a little. On the other hand, you take any individual out of that audience and have them exposed to the murder of someone they care about, they won’t be desensitized. We’re only desensitized to the spectacle of it.

Did Ms. Stratten’s death change the way you look at violence?

Yes, it did. I never particularly liked violence in movies, but I didn’t have the same reaction to it that I do now. I think it’s all handled by people who don’t know what it’s really like. It’s just people making movies, and saying, “OK, well, this guy gets killed, and then we go over here and this guy gets killed,” and I’m thinking, each death counts.

Is there any solution to that problem, or is it something we just have to accept?

I think it’s everybody’s personal responsibility. Filmmakers have a responsibility to the audience and to the work, and I wish they felt that responsibility more, especially to what’s true in life. The tragic events of September brought knowledge of premeditated murder to an awful lot of people who didn’t know about it.

I watched those people on TV afterwards, and it broke my heart. I knew where they were coming from. And I knew they were in for a life of it. They talk about closure and getting past it — Christ, it doesn’t ever happen that way. These poor people on television a week later talking about it, thinking that they’re dealing with it. You know, it’s a truism for people who’ve been through this that the fifth year is the worst. It happened to me. For some reason after five years, it’s like it’s just happened again. It’s also something you don’t recover from, you learn to live with. You don’t get past it, you learn to move on with it as part of your life.

You have to think of it in this context; the murder in “The Cat’s Meow” affects everyone there for all their lives. I don’t know that Marion would have stayed with Hearst had it not been for the murder. I think she felt guilty that she was kind of the cause of it.

Then it’s established that Chaplin and Davies actually were fooling around?

Well, nobody was under the bed. But that gossip item that’s referred to in the film linking Chaplin and Davies actually appeared in the Daily News that weekend. I have a copy of it. Chaplin was a notorious philanderer. And Marion evidently had some affairs with other people. We presume it happened.

Of all the characters in the film, who do you identify with?

That’s an interesting question. Really, I can identify with all the men. I’ve been down and out like Ince. I’ve been obsessed with a woman like Hearst. I’ve been lookin’ to get laid like Chaplin. So, I understand where they’re coming from. And I understand, as I said, what a murder does. My sympathy, if you want to ask that, is with Marion, which you can see in the picture to a degree.

It’s her tragedy, I think. It’s a woman’s story — she’s trapped between powerful men. In 1924, women had only been able to vote for the second time. I made a reference to that in the film, because it’s fairly shocking to remember that. It was November of 1924 and the election had just happened. Nineteen-twenty was the first year women were allowed to vote. It’s about a woman who seems to have everything, but doesn’t quite. “I have me,” she says. But she’s not really right.

If you could go back in time, which decade would you want to go back to?

If I had a time machine? I’d pick the ’30s. I’d want to be a filmmaker under contract at Paramount as Lubitsch was head of the studio.

So you might’ve been one of Mr. Welles’ colleagues?

I would’ve met him, yeah. I looked it up one time and I told Orson, “You know the day you started shooting ‘Citizen Kane’ I was 1 year old?” And he said, “Aw, shut up!”

You think about him often, don’t you?

He was a very dear friend for most of our association, and yes, his spirit ranges over everything. He was quite extraordinary.

You speak of Mr. Welles’ spirit. I’m curious, what do you think happens to us after we die?

Kind of a personal question. I don’t think the spirit dies. I think the spirit is imperishable, that it remains, and is around or not, depending on different things. I don’t know about murderers, though. I don’t know where they go. I keep feeling that the murderers who blew up the World Trade Center are doomed to haunt that area for the rest of their lives.

Stephen Lemons is a freelance journalist and regular contributor to Salon. He lives in Los Angeles.

Five pop culture items we missed

Today's catch: Gwyneth Paltrow is a 9/11 hero, Gerard Depardieu pees on people, and "Lone Ranger" nixes werewolves

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Five pop culture items we missed"What do you mean we-rewolves, kemosabe?"

1. Cause of the day: Kate Winslet founds “British Anti-Cosmetic Surgery League” (for very famous people) along with Emma Thompson and Rachel Weisz. Maybe they can be like sister suffragettes and battle the Barbie Mom!

2. Celebrity story involving airlines and urine of the day: When Gerard Depardieu wasn’t allowed to use the toilet during takeoff, he peed all over fellow passengers on an Air France flight. Says Air France spokesperson: “I confirm the fact that he [Depardieu] did indeed urinate in the plane.” That is all.

3. “Gwyneth Paltrow saved my life on 9/11″ story of the day: Wait, really? I could almost forgive Paltrow for her multitude of sins if she acted heroically on Sept. 11. So let’s check it out:

“Clarke, then a 24-year-old account manager at Baseline Financial Services, was on her way to work shortly before 9 a.m. and about to jaywalk across the street to catch the 1/9 train in Tribeca when the Oscar winner abruptly cut her off in her silver Mercedes.”

Oh wait, so Paltrow almost ran over a woman, inadvertently making her late for work at the World Trade Center? Man, and here the firefighters got to take all the credit. 

4. Narrowly averted train wreck of the day: Disney has split with Jerry Bruckheimer on “The Lone Ranger” movie, apparently because the director’s insistence on adding werewolves and “Indian spirits like Obi-Wan Kenobi” to the plot was getting too expensive.

5. Must read of the day: Roger Ebert’s new memoir, of which he’s posted the first several pages on his blog. It begins, “I was born inside the movie of my life,” which might be the best opening line since that Dickens book people are always quoting when they want to reference a good opening line.

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Drew Grant is a staff writer for Salon. Follow her on Twitter at @videodrew.

Michael Bay life lessons: Stress management

What the films of the "Transformers" auteur can teach you about dealing with pressure and everyday hassles

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Michael Bay life lessons: Stress managementWhat you can learn from "Transformers": It could always be worse.

There may be some dispute over the quality of Michael Bay’s directorial skills, but no one can deny that the man has a certain panache. With films about killer robots, killer comets and Peal Harbor, Bay’s oeuvre may be full of violence, but they’re also full of learning moments for the neurotically inclined.

Better than Tony Robbins or a self-help book, Michael Bay’s movies are an advanced class on dealing with life when it hands you lemons. Lemons that are actually grenades and you have two minutes to deactivate before the whole country goes ka-BLAM!

Welcome to Michael Bay’s stress management guide. Now take a deep breath, and go to your calm place…

Lesson 1: Keep your mantras simple

Everybody’s had those days when life seems determined to weigh you down. While you might be inclined to give up and throw a pity party complete with a “Teen Moms” marathon and a bucket of ice cream, it’s good to remember those wise words of Yoda: “Do or do not. There is no try.” Though if you don’t like taking advice from a short green guy, how about Sean Connery, who paraphrases the famous “Star Wars” line to a whiny Nicholas Cage in “The Rock.”

For ladies, just substitute “prom queen” with “hottest guy in the theater department.”

Lesson 2: Keep things in perspective

Lost your job? Got dumped by your significant other? Maxed out your credit cards? I’m totally with you: Those things can be major stressors. But remember, it’s not the end of the world. Even in Michael Bay movies, where the price of failing is usually an apocalyptic scenario, characters are able to keep things light with a few quippy one-liners. And if the situation does require a bit of gravitas, you can always hang up the phone, turn to your partner, and express how real the shit just got.

 See, don’t you feel better?

Lesson 3: Make sure you have your facts straight

Sometimes the most stressful part of a situation is not being exactly clear about what’s going on. Maybe those emails from your boss are confusing, or it turns out you are a human clone, created to have its organs harvested for rich people. Either way, the scariest part is not knowing! So make sure that you find an expert (usually Steve Buscemi) that can talk you through the stuff going over your head.

Lesson 4: Never let them see you sweat

Sure, on the inside you might be feeling like a pile of spineless goo, but a lot of confrontational situations can be diffused as long as you act with confidence, maturity and the knowledge that your opponent is sitting on top of a giant rocket.

Let’s see how well Gary from marketing can negotiate now!

Lesson 5: Stay positive!

If you take away one thing from Michael Bay films (besides that even a dweeb like Shia LaBeouf can land Megan Fox if he plays his cards right and there are machines taking over the world), it’s that doing the hard thing, while not easy, will always rewarded with the respect of that guy from “The Green Mile” (either David Morse or Michael Clarke Duncan):

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Drew Grant is a staff writer for Salon. Follow her on Twitter at @videodrew.

Spike Lee to direct “Oldboy” remake?

Rumors of adapting the cult manga/revenge film for American audiences still include Will Smith

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Spike Lee to direct Choi Min-sik in "Oldboy."

Warning: This article contains a major plot spoiler for the film “Oldboy.”

Since Park Chan-wook’s South Korean revenge flick “Oldboy” won the Grand Prix at Cannes in 2004, producers have been trying to find a way to bastardize the project into a more American-friendly version. Steven Spielberg and Will Smith have both been attached to the title since 2008 (after director Justin Lin and Nic Cage dropped out of the running), though rumors have been swirling that the project has been dead in the water for at least a year.

There are basically two camps of thought on an “Oldboy” remake: the people who think that adapting the story of Oh Dae-Su — a man locked in a hotel room for 15 years and then mysteriously freed in order to find his captors — from either its original Japanese manga or its cinematic counterpart is a terrible idea … and those who aren’t familiar with the story.

Because the truth is, nobody familiar with the themes and imagery in “Oldboy” would ever consider Spielberg or Smith a good fit for such a dark, violent and challenging film. Though the source material has some comedic moments, major plot developments revolve around (SPOILER ALERT) at least two counts of incest. There are also gory scenes in the film that could rival anything Eli Roth or those “Saw” guys could put out, including a climatic moment where a character cuts out his own tongue.

So, no, “Oldboy” just doesn’t scream “Spielberg” to me … or Smith, for that matter. Tarantino? Maybe. But not the guy who directed “E.T.” or the Fresh Prince. Considering the queasy live sushi scene below is one of the “lighter” moments in the movie, could you really see Wills pulling it off?

As of yesterday, however, Spike Lee’s name has been floating around as a new director for the film. (He is apparently “in talks” with Mandate.) Even though it’s only a rumor, it’s possibly a game-changing one: Lee’s style is far more gritty and violent than Spielberg’s, and if Smith is still attached to the project, we’ll be far more likely to see an “I am Legend” performance than a “The Pursuit of Happyness” one with Spike at the helm.

If this movie does happen, the most we can hope for is that it doesn’t try to replicate the brilliant weirdness of Park Chan-wook’s adaptation. Instead, it could start from scratch with the manga, with Lee creating his own stylized world for Oh Dae-Su to navigate. I don’t have much faith in an American “Oldboy,” but at least now there is a little more to hope for.

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Drew Grant is a staff writer for Salon. Follow her on Twitter at @videodrew.

Michael Bay plagiarizes Michael Bay for “Transformers 3″

"Dark of the Moon's" dark secret: Shots from "The Island" appear in summer blockbuster

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Michael Bay plagiarizes Michael Bay for Look familiar?

Most famous directors have a signature style that lets you know you are watching one of their films: David Lynch will give you red curtains and flickering matches, Scorsese will have “Gimmie Shelter” slipped somewhere in between the violent acts of mob crime, and Steven Spielberg … well, Steven Spielberg has a lot of recurring motifs. But at what point does a cinematic thumbprint turn into lazy self-plagiarism?

The answer to this theoretical film query has been answered by none other than Michael Bay, whose auteur work can be boiled down to “big things blowing up or hitting other big things.” But even with that not-too-original concept, Bay has gotten sloppy: allegedly taking direct shots from his 2005 flop “The Island” and putting them in “Transformers 3: Dark of the Moon.”

Last week, a viral-video pirate named Jermain Odreman spent a considerable amount of time watching Bay’s movies in slow-motion in order to catch almost identical sequences from both films. The footage is unquestionably similar, down to the type of car that flips over, the angle of the smoke from the explosion, and the damage done by flying shrapnel.

Considering the hundreds of millions of dollars Bay had to play with for his third “Transformers” movie, it’s an egregious insult that he’d recycle old footage. Sure, we may pack the theaters of his films because we want to mindlessly watch giant pieces of machinery go up in a massive fireballs, but the very least (seriously, the very least) that Bay could do is show us new machinery and new fireballs. Otherwise, what are we paying him for … his thought-provoking dialogue or fully developed characters?

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Jackson Pollock reimagined with the trippy “Dripped”

An animated short exposes one of the 20th century's greatest artists as a cat burglar and art-eater

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 Ed Harris did a great job playing the alcoholic, abstract expressionist Jackson Pollock in the 2000 film about the artist’s life and work. (Fun fact: Remember how the actor directed that film as well? Ed Harris is the man.) The struggle between his vulnerable neurosis and volatile personality — especially in the context of his relationship with his wife, Lee Krasner, over the years — was portrayed with less restraint than we’ve come to expect from stone-faced Harris, and overall made for a great film about a difficult subject.

That being said: At no point in “Pollock” did the artist grow wings after eating famous Renaissance paintings he stole from a museum before regurgitating his own still lifes into speckled visual jazz riffs. Léo Verrier’s animated eight-minute short “Dripped” is a whimsical interpretation of Jackson’s love of all art, and his eventual realization that he doesn’t have to “bite” off other talent in order to create his own masterpieces.

OK, so it’s not quite a literal biography, but it’s stylistically entrancing nonetheless; like something from an early Chuck Jones cartoon on acid.

 

Dripped from ChezEddy on Vimeo.

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Drew Grant is a staff writer for Salon. Follow her on Twitter at @videodrew.

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