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	<title>Comments on: Did crafty Dems make contraception a campaign issue?</title>
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		<title>By: franksa</title>
		<link>http://www.salon.com/2012/02/23/did_crafty_dems_make_contraception_a_campaign_issue/#comment-3435221</link>
		<dc:creator>franksa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 23:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;One can not underestimate the stupidity of those who are so self absorbed, they start believing their own press releases. The gop is a victim of their own vanity and the vanity of the millionaires and  billionaires that line their pockets. Good politics capitalizes on the mistakes of the narcistic.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One can not underestimate the stupidity of those who are so self absorbed, they start believing their own press releases. The gop is a victim of their own vanity and the vanity of the millionaires and  billionaires that line their pockets. Good politics capitalizes on the mistakes of the narcistic.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Benson</title>
		<link>http://www.salon.com/2012/02/23/did_crafty_dems_make_contraception_a_campaign_issue/#comment-3429671</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Benson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 11:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Come now Sarah, surely you realize how emasculating that would be!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come now Sarah, surely you realize how emasculating that would be!</p>
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		<title>By: Docb</title>
		<link>http://www.salon.com/2012/02/23/did_crafty_dems_make_contraception_a_campaign_issue/#comment-3420551</link>
		<dc:creator>Docb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nice try..no sale!  In 13 mouths the repub US House has brought 11 bills stripping Womens&#039; Rights...20 repub States have brought some 40 bills with the same bent..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They brought it up they can own it like in Virginia, Mississippi,  etc!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice try..no sale!  In 13 mouths the repub US House has brought 11 bills stripping Womens&#8217; Rights&#8230;20 repub States have brought some 40 bills with the same bent..</p>
<p>They brought it up they can own it like in Virginia, Mississippi,  etc!</p>
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		<title>By: SarahGr</title>
		<link>http://www.salon.com/2012/02/23/did_crafty_dems_make_contraception_a_campaign_issue/#comment-3414491</link>
		<dc:creator>SarahGr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 08:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;stv, I&#039;ve noticed the same thing on other media threads today. I think that most of the GOPers are just wishing this whole thing (that they started) would go away.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I hope it doesn&#039;t.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stv, I&#8217;ve noticed the same thing on other media threads today. I think that most of the GOPers are just wishing this whole thing (that they started) would go away.</p>
<p>I hope it doesn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: SarahGr</title>
		<link>http://www.salon.com/2012/02/23/did_crafty_dems_make_contraception_a_campaign_issue/#comment-3414451</link>
		<dc:creator>SarahGr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 08:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Why aren&#039;t the Republicans including vascectomies on their list of forbidden birth control?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why aren&#8217;t the Republicans including vascectomies on their list of forbidden birth control?</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Benson</title>
		<link>http://www.salon.com/2012/02/23/did_crafty_dems_make_contraception_a_campaign_issue/#comment-3410941</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Benson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 00:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;France is supposed to be even better than Germany.  Last I heard, they were number one in healthcare for their citizens in the whole frigging world.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>France is supposed to be even better than Germany.  Last I heard, they were number one in healthcare for their citizens in the whole frigging world.</p>
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		<title>By: echo123</title>
		<link>http://www.salon.com/2012/02/23/did_crafty_dems_make_contraception_a_campaign_issue/#comment-3410881</link>
		<dc:creator>echo123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 00:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The Republicans insist on putting up a candidate who is anti-Latino and now anti-woman?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Good luck with that!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Republicans insist on putting up a candidate who is anti-Latino and now anti-woman?</p>
<p>Good luck with that!</p>
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		<title>By: stvhunter</title>
		<link>http://www.salon.com/2012/02/23/did_crafty_dems_make_contraception_a_campaign_issue/#comment-3410731</link>
		<dc:creator>stvhunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 23:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Joan,&lt;br /&gt;
Usually your Salon articles act like a magnet for comment posts by the right-wingers that lurk on Salon just waiting to bash Joan Walsh.  I just read through all the comments, and didn&#039;t see any of the usual mean-spirited animus, and I wonder why. Could it be something about this particular topic?  The Repubs have over-stepped and looks like the base just might not be falling in line.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joan,<br />
Usually your Salon articles act like a magnet for comment posts by the right-wingers that lurk on Salon just waiting to bash Joan Walsh.  I just read through all the comments, and didn&#8217;t see any of the usual mean-spirited animus, and I wonder why. Could it be something about this particular topic?  The Repubs have over-stepped and looks like the base just might not be falling in line.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Rathert</title>
		<link>http://www.salon.com/2012/02/23/did_crafty_dems_make_contraception_a_campaign_issue/#comment-3409241</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Rathert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 22:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So why doesn&#039;t the church accept impotence as a cross that God asks men to bear? If I understand correctly, the Bishops have no problem with being required to cover Viagra. BTW, this is not directed at you, Agrippina; your comment just reminded me that I&#039;d really like a (non-bullshit) answer to that question. You know, from the Bishops.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So why doesn&#8217;t the church accept impotence as a cross that God asks men to bear? If I understand correctly, the Bishops have no problem with being required to cover Viagra. BTW, this is not directed at you, Agrippina; your comment just reminded me that I&#8217;d really like a (non-bullshit) answer to that question. You know, from the Bishops.</p>
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		<title>By: Amity</title>
		<link>http://www.salon.com/2012/02/23/did_crafty_dems_make_contraception_a_campaign_issue/#comment-3407741</link>
		<dc:creator>Amity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;The same could be said about every Washington Post journalist. They&#039;ve been bending over backwards for the right wing for the last twenty years...&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Well, the larger problems with the &lt;i&gt;Post&lt;/i&gt; are a whole other issue.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But consider that even a craven, bleating, &quot;conventional wisdom&quot; hack who merely repeats whatever is coming out of the echo chamber at the moment is at least reliably toolish.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This on the other hand is a special kind of rhetorical trick, where you position yourself as a dependable ally and then use the attention you command to slip these sweet little barbs under the skin of naive listeners.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>The same could be said about every Washington Post journalist. They&#8217;ve been bending over backwards for the right wing for the last twenty years&#8230;</i></p>
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<p>Well, the larger problems with the <i>Post</i> are a whole other issue.</p>
<p>But consider that even a craven, bleating, &#8220;conventional wisdom&#8221; hack who merely repeats whatever is coming out of the echo chamber at the moment is at least reliably toolish.</p>
<p>This on the other hand is a special kind of rhetorical trick, where you position yourself as a dependable ally and then use the attention you command to slip these sweet little barbs under the skin of naive listeners.</p>
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		<title>By: dkelly5352</title>
		<link>http://www.salon.com/2012/02/23/did_crafty_dems_make_contraception_a_campaign_issue/#comment-3407531</link>
		<dc:creator>dkelly5352</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The phrase &quot;Moral Majority&quot; was popularized by Jerry Falwell about 30 years ago.  JERRY FALWELL, the most conservative, facist, religious nut ever--not the Democrats.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The phrase &#8220;Moral Majority&#8221; was popularized by Jerry Falwell about 30 years ago.  JERRY FALWELL, the most conservative, facist, religious nut ever&#8211;not the Democrats.</p>
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		<title>By: Okra God</title>
		<link>http://www.salon.com/2012/02/23/did_crafty_dems_make_contraception_a_campaign_issue/#comment-3407031</link>
		<dc:creator>Okra God</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sure it would be nice if every child had two parents -- and aunts, uncles, grandparents, and a loving supportive extended family. And great neighborhoods, excellent schools, and health care. And a rainbow unicorn pony.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But it&#039;s no sin if you don&#039;t have these, which is what the Santorum is saying. So, no, he&#039;s not right.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure it would be nice if every child had two parents &#8212; and aunts, uncles, grandparents, and a loving supportive extended family. And great neighborhoods, excellent schools, and health care. And a rainbow unicorn pony.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s no sin if you don&#8217;t have these, which is what the Santorum is saying. So, no, he&#8217;s not right.</p>
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		<title>By: Okra God</title>
		<link>http://www.salon.com/2012/02/23/did_crafty_dems_make_contraception_a_campaign_issue/#comment-3406961</link>
		<dc:creator>Okra God</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes, Repubes, we forced you to look stupid by .....letting you talk.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Tom95134</title>
		<link>http://www.salon.com/2012/02/23/did_crafty_dems_make_contraception_a_campaign_issue/#comment-3406881</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom95134</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m not sure that the Democrats are clever enough to have fed the Republicans this dish of raw meat just so they can capitalized on their rabid right-wing positions and rants.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure that the Democrats are clever enough to have fed the Republicans this dish of raw meat just so they can capitalized on their rabid right-wing positions and rants.</p>
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		<title>By: dkelly5352</title>
		<link>http://www.salon.com/2012/02/23/did_crafty_dems_make_contraception_a_campaign_issue/#comment-3406771</link>
		<dc:creator>dkelly5352</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I told my sister ten years ago that the conservatives would not be satisfied with trying to stop abortions.  I believed they would go after contraceptives next.  She thought I was crazy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Today, she conceded I was right.  Those folks are nuts.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I told my sister ten years ago that the conservatives would not be satisfied with trying to stop abortions.  I believed they would go after contraceptives next.  She thought I was crazy.</p>
<p>Today, she conceded I was right.  Those folks are nuts.</p>
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		<title>By: dkelly5352</title>
		<link>http://www.salon.com/2012/02/23/did_crafty_dems_make_contraception_a_campaign_issue/#comment-3406731</link>
		<dc:creator>dkelly5352</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;How many people do you know who remained virgins until they were married?  I don&#039;t know any and I live in the most conservative state in the Union, in my opinion (Alabama).  To say nothing of the people who cheat on their spouses, then divorce, then sow wild oats, then remarry, then divorce, etc.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As to your point that sex is only for creating children,even in marriage, are you kidding me?  When a woman can no longer safely bear children, is the couple no longer supposed to have sex?  What if the man is infertile?    &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do you live in a convent?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many people do you know who remained virgins until they were married?  I don&#8217;t know any and I live in the most conservative state in the Union, in my opinion (Alabama).  To say nothing of the people who cheat on their spouses, then divorce, then sow wild oats, then remarry, then divorce, etc.</p>
<p>As to your point that sex is only for creating children,even in marriage, are you kidding me?  When a woman can no longer safely bear children, is the couple no longer supposed to have sex?  What if the man is infertile?    </p>
<p>Do you live in a convent?</p>
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		<title>By: Brass Ones</title>
		<link>http://www.salon.com/2012/02/23/did_crafty_dems_make_contraception_a_campaign_issue/#comment-3406531</link>
		<dc:creator>Brass Ones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;TOT, I hope you&#039;re right about the Dems calling out the GOP on the issue of birth control.  They need to aggressively point out the moronic, authoritarian nature of the GOP. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Many Americans tend to be complacent about politics until they discover their own ox is being gored.  And when the American women realize the GOP wants to control all aspects of their reproductive health they will get very political.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Love your comment about &quot;attacking an individual&#039;s right to conscience&quot;, in your world the right to have actual freedom to control one&#039;s life should always be subordinate to offending the conscience of some religious zealots.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TOT, I hope you&#8217;re right about the Dems calling out the GOP on the issue of birth control.  They need to aggressively point out the moronic, authoritarian nature of the GOP. </p>
<p>Many Americans tend to be complacent about politics until they discover their own ox is being gored.  And when the American women realize the GOP wants to control all aspects of their reproductive health they will get very political.</p>
<p>Love your comment about &#8220;attacking an individual&#8217;s right to conscience&#8221;, in your world the right to have actual freedom to control one&#8217;s life should always be subordinate to offending the conscience of some religious zealots.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Mackinnon</title>
		<link>http://www.salon.com/2012/02/23/did_crafty_dems_make_contraception_a_campaign_issue/#comment-3405781</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Mackinnon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;After Pope Santorum is elected, of course, subterfuge won&#039;t be needed; ballots won&#039;t be used after that.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Only if there isn&#039;t a white puff of smoke.  :-)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;After Pope Santorum is elected, of course, subterfuge won&#8217;t be needed; ballots won&#8217;t be used after that.&#8221;</p>
<p>Only if there isn&#8217;t a white puff of smoke.  :-)</p>
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		<title>By: The Obama Teleprompter</title>
		<link>http://www.salon.com/2012/02/23/did_crafty_dems_make_contraception_a_campaign_issue/#comment-3404531</link>
		<dc:creator>The Obama Teleprompter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Did crafty Dems make contraception a campaign issue? &quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In a word — yes.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am really astounded that Joan Walsh could write a piece like this without even referencing the Republican debate in Manchester last January, when Democrats first launched contraception as a campaign issue. It was a very strange moment — and not one easily forgotten. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One of the moderators was former Clinton White House Communications Director and current Democratic operative George Stephanopoulos. He brought up the subject of contraception from out of the blue. (Which one can easily assume means it was a coordinated Democratic Party effort.) Anyhow, Stephanopoulos kept hounding Romney on contraception even though it had never come up before. Everyone watching was confused, as was Romney, about what the deal was.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As Dick Morris later noted: &quot;You remember that ABC debate with that paid Democratic hit man? George Stephanopoulos went after Romney trying to pin him down on contraception and Romney kept saying, &quot;George, nobody wants to make contracetion an issue&quot; But Stephanopoulos kept pressing, &quot;No, but do they have the theoretical power to do it?&quot;  Remember, it was five minutes long. People started laughing at Stephanopoulos. Now they come out with this thing on contraception. They wanted to create the idea — and it&#039;s no coincidence that they came out with it after Minnesota and Colorado which were Santorum&#039;s victories — they want to create the impression that the Republicans will ban contraception.&quot; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So yes, crafty Dems DID conspire to make contraception a campaign issue. Only they&#039;re really not so &quot;crafty&quot; — because it will blow up in their faces in the end. In fact, by November it will be just one more example of how Big Government under Obama is attacking the rights of the individual — and in this case, attacking an individual&#039;s right to conscience by mandating an &quot;our way or the highway&quot; policy to our religious institutions.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Did crafty Dems make contraception a campaign issue? &#8220;</p>
<p>In a word — yes.</p>
<p>I am really astounded that Joan Walsh could write a piece like this without even referencing the Republican debate in Manchester last January, when Democrats first launched contraception as a campaign issue. It was a very strange moment — and not one easily forgotten. </p>
<p>One of the moderators was former Clinton White House Communications Director and current Democratic operative George Stephanopoulos. He brought up the subject of contraception from out of the blue. (Which one can easily assume means it was a coordinated Democratic Party effort.) Anyhow, Stephanopoulos kept hounding Romney on contraception even though it had never come up before. Everyone watching was confused, as was Romney, about what the deal was.</p>
<p>As Dick Morris later noted: &#8220;You remember that ABC debate with that paid Democratic hit man? George Stephanopoulos went after Romney trying to pin him down on contraception and Romney kept saying, &#8220;George, nobody wants to make contracetion an issue&#8221; But Stephanopoulos kept pressing, &#8220;No, but do they have the theoretical power to do it?&#8221;  Remember, it was five minutes long. People started laughing at Stephanopoulos. Now they come out with this thing on contraception. They wanted to create the idea — and it&#8217;s no coincidence that they came out with it after Minnesota and Colorado which were Santorum&#8217;s victories — they want to create the impression that the Republicans will ban contraception.&#8221; </p>
<p>So yes, crafty Dems DID conspire to make contraception a campaign issue. Only they&#8217;re really not so &#8220;crafty&#8221; — because it will blow up in their faces in the end. In fact, by November it will be just one more example of how Big Government under Obama is attacking the rights of the individual — and in this case, attacking an individual&#8217;s right to conscience by mandating an &#8220;our way or the highway&#8221; policy to our religious institutions.</p>
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		<title>By: babyboomer</title>
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		<dc:creator>babyboomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Why do you think we americans get so little news from overseas? We might find out about these programs and other perks of living under the supposedly evil slightly socialist system. I used to live in France and they had a system where the parents had health care and a stipend from the government for every child in the family. They have good schools and clean parks. Wish we could say the same.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do you think we americans get so little news from overseas? We might find out about these programs and other perks of living under the supposedly evil slightly socialist system. I used to live in France and they had a system where the parents had health care and a stipend from the government for every child in the family. They have good schools and clean parks. Wish we could say the same.</p>
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