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Greenspan: US “Can pay any debt it has”

"We can always print money," says former Fed chair indicating that S&P downgrade is about something else

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Former Federal Reserve chairman, Alan Greenspan, reiterated a point Sunday that many economists have made during this debt crisis: It’s not just about creditworthiness.

“The United States can pay any debt it has because we can always print money to do that. So, there is zero probability of default,” said Greenspan on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

He said that the S&P downgrading of U.S. debt — more than indicating a genuine risk of default — “hit a nerve that there’s something bad going on.” He said the move “hit the self-esteem of the United States, the psyche… . It’s having a much profounder effect than I conceived could happen.”

Greenspan said too that the downgrade would likely precipitate market turmoil, but that the possibility of a double-dip recession depended on Europe..

Appearing alongside Greenspan, Austan Goolsbee, the chairman of the White House’s council of economic advisors, hit out at S&P. “Well, the basic case is they made a $2 trillion math error and forgot to check their work,” he said. “So rating agencies that didn’t make a $2 trillion math error reaffirmed the AAA status.”

Watch the clip below:

 

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How to ignore history, by Alan Greenspan

Catastrophic economic meltdowns happen, says the Maestro. But not very often, so why worry?

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How to ignore history, by Alan GreenspanFormer Federal Reserve Board chairman Alan Greenspan listens to opening statements as he testifies before the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission hearing on Capitol Hill in Washington, April 7 , 2010. Making it easier for poorer Americans to get mortgages didn't push the country into crisis but Wall Street's drive to package the loans into opaque securities helped do so, Greenspan said on Wednesday. REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque (UNITED STATES - Tags: POLITICS BUSINESS IMAGES OF THE DAY)(Credit: © Kevin Lamarque / Reuters)

It’s been five years since Alan Greenspan retired from his position as Chairman of the Federal Reserve, but the media and financial worlds still respond to every utterance from the “Maestro” with all the mindless kneejerk reflexivity of Pavlov’s dog. And I write those words in the full knowledge that my own knee is jerking along with all the rest.

The pleasure of Greenspan outrage is simply impossible to resist. As Paul Krugman observes, Greenspan, “more than any other individual, bears personal responsibility” for the financial crisis, but here he is, in the Financial Times, arguing for the repeal of regulations designed to prevent future such disasters.

The gist of his argument appears to be that it is just too hard to regulate today’s global economy. He failed, or, to use his own words, was “caught flat-footed” by the crisis, and therefore so will all future regulators. Greenspan has always been known for being a man of few, and very obscure, words, but his analysis explaining this reasoning includes an interlocution that will go down in history as one of the greatest examples of purposefully idiotic misdirection of all time.

The problem is that regulators, and for that matter everyone else, can never get more than a glimpse at the internal workings of the simplest of modern financial systems. Today’s competitive markets, whether we seek to recognize it or not, are driven by an international version of Adam Smith’s “invisible hand” that is unredeemably opaque. With notably rare exceptions (2008, for example), the global “invisible hand” has created relatively stable exchange rates, interest rates, prices, and wage rates.

The Interwebs are already having too much fun with that clause, so there’s little need to belabor it here — but feel free, if you so wish! Suffice to say, it should only require one global economic catastrophe that throws tens of millions of people out of work, threatens the entire  banking system with bankruptcy and destroys the finances of governments from Wisconsin to Portugal before we feel inspired to do a little tinkering with the rules that govern the financial sector.

But that’s too easy. There are two other substantive parts of Greenspan’s editorial that deserve attention. The first is his little list of unintended outcomes in the aftermath of the passage of something as complicated as the Dodd-Frank bank reform bill. For Greenspan, the fact that there have already been “regulatory inconsistencies whose consequences cannot be readily anticipated” is evidence, again, that we should never have dared attempt to master the unruly beast.

But I don’t think any fair-minded person would be surprised that an undertaking as complex as bank reform (or healthcare reform, for that matter) would include kinks in the system. A responsible approach would be to treat reform as an iterative process. You try something, and then adjust as the situation warrants. If legislators of both parties were committed to the same goal — a better regulated financial system — we might even be able to make some progress. But when one side shrugs off recent disaster as a “notable exception” and immediately returns to its fundamental, bank-lobbyist mandated position, that regulation is bad for business, then incremental process becomes impossible. Republicans don’t want to fix Dodd-Frank, they want to destroy it. Greenspan is giving them cover.

The second major thrust of Greenspan’s editorial is his theory that higher levels of financial complexity are inextricable from rising standards of living.

Is the answer to complex modern-day finance that we return to the simpler banking practices of a half century ago? That may not be possible if we wish to maintain today’s levels of productivity and standards of living. During the postwar years, the degree of financial complexity has appeared to grow with the rising division of labor, globalization, and the level of technology. One measure of that complexity, the share of gross domestic product devoted to finance and insurance, has increased dramatically.

So suck it up, America! If you want your flat-screen TVs, iPhones and organic gourmet food, you’re going to have to accept unregulated derivatives trading and excessive Wall Street CEO compensation.

Oh, and the possibility of occasional massive financial disasters. At Marginal Revolution, Tyler Cowen produces a neat chart that track the GDP share of U.S. financial industry. And yes, it does rise steadily since 1940.

But it also rose steadily between 1880 and 1929, when it reached a height that would not be matched gor another 50 years.

Something happened right about then, but best not to dwell on it, because, after all, it’s obviously just another one of those “notable exceptions” — since it only happened once in the entire 20th century.

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Alan Greenspan’s housing bubble coffee break

New evidence that the Federal Reserve had ample warning trouble was brewing in 2005, but chose to ignore it

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Alan Greenspan's housing bubble coffee breakAlan Greenspan, former chairman of the Federal Reserve, testifies before the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission hearing on Capitol Hill in Washington April 7 , 2010. REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque (UNITED STATES - Tags: POLITICS BUSINESS)(Credit: © Kevin Lamarque / Reuters)

On Friday, the Federal Reserve released the transcripts of its 2005 Open Market Committee meetings — the gatherings in which the Fed’s Board of Governors takes the pulse of the economy and then decides upon the appropriate interest rate policy. Calculated Risk looks at the transcript of the June meeting, and engages in a wry cut-and-paste.

(Atlanta Fed president Jack Guynn is discussing his negative views on the housing boom:)

My supervision and regulation staff thinks this is an accident waiting to happen in our area. And while the local market excesses probably do not represent systemic national risk, the shakeouts could have serious regional consequences. My bank supervision staff points out that housing-related credit risks to our bank lenders are not so much from defaults on permanent mortgage financing that we talked about yesterday, but rather from lending for land acquisition, development, and construction. The ugly picture we have seen before — and that they think we may very likely see again before long — goes something like this: the drying up of sales of new units; the painful decision of developers to go ahead and complete the construction of additional units to make them saleable, further depressing the market; and speculators who had hoped to see big capital gains walking away or defaulting on their contracts, giving their properties back to the lender. Perhaps it’s because of where I sit, but I am less comforted than some of my colleagues about the housing situation …

CHAIRMAN GREENSPAN. Let’s take a break for coffee.

Most economically damaging coffee break of all time? Perhaps, but skimming through the report, I was also taken by a long summary of the subprime mortgage market, delivered by Fed Gov. Mark Olson.

… I, too, looked at the mortgage market in anticipation of the theme of our discussions yesterday. But I also had a concern about the extent to which the mortgage market might be creating froth in the market … mortgage terms are indeed becoming more flexible and less restrictive, creating certain defined risk exposures …

There is a lack of consensus as to how the relaxation of credit standards will impact safety and soundness. To date, loan delinquencies have remained modest, both within and outside of the banking industry. However, the undiminished appetite, particularly for the nonconforming mortgage product, has allowed for the flexibility to continue. And there is no slowing in sight, despite all the warnings that we have heard and indications in some markets that there has been a leveling, and even a decline, in some property values …

… As for the secondary market, why is that market so avaricious? I’d cite a number of reasons. There are many new investors, including the hedge funds, with minimal experience in dealing with market uncertainties. There are many new products; 50 percent of the mortgage-backed products are either alt-A or nonprime. That’s the flow, as we discussed yesterday. There is evidence of a lack of secondary market discretion, including the ability to price for risk; the risk premium simply does not reflect the risk embedded in that product … It’s not clear at this point if the MBS market will be an efficient distributor and disseminator of risk or if those in that market will be the last to recognize the risk that’s embedded in what they’re doing and know how to price it.

The warning signs were written in blazing Day-Glo orange on the Fed temple walls. Greenspan ignored them, and the U.S. economy hurtled directly into the worst economic disaster since the Great Depression.

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Alan Greenspan gets his reward

John Paulson spends some of his subprime winnings on an endowed chair for the man who made it all possible

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In 2007, hedge fund manager John Paulson made $3.7 billion by betting against subprime mortgage-backed securities. He is notorious for convincing Goldman Sachs to create such securities, backed by the riskiest mortgages Paulson could identify, simply so he could bet against them — an astonishing act of irresponsibility that succintly captures, all by itself, the moral bankruptcy of Wall Street during the last decade.

Paulson made minor headlines a few weeks ago when he donated $20 million to his alma mater, New York University’s Stern School of Business. But I did not learn until this morning, via The Big Picture, that a portion of those funds was designated to endow the Alan Greenspan Chair in Economics.

“His generous gift will … further strengthen Stern’s research capability, particularly in the areas of finance and economics,” said Thomas F. Cooley, dean of NYU Stern.

Alan Greenspan is on record as supporting the innovation in mortgage products that ended up going kablooey in the dot-com bust. He was warned that mortgage lenders were running amok but did nothing to stop it. One can even argue that no single person has done more than Alan “the Maestro” Greenspan to intellectually support the thesis that the financial sector should be regulated as little as possible.

So, to be blunt, Alan Greenspan’s hard work made John Paulson’s big bet possible. Let’s hope at least some of the students taught by whoever occupies the Greenspan chair devote their energies to understanding exactly how that happened.

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Alan Greenspan isn’t making sense

The former Federal Reserve chairman says the stock market is shaping the economy. Or it's the other way around

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Alan Greenspan isn't making senseLA5H5981sc President George W. Bush presents the Presidential Medal of Freedom to Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan, one of 14 recipients of the 2005 Presidential Medal of Freedom, awarded Wednesday, Nov. 9, 2005 in the East Room of the Whiite House. White House photo by Shealah Craighead(Credit: Shealah Craighead)

Hide the children; Alan Greenspan is prognosticating again. Bloomberg reports that the former Fed chairman believes “the U.S. economic recovery is undergoing a ‘typical pause’ that will be shaped by the performance of stock markets. “

“While ordinarily we’re seeing the stock market driven by economic events, I think it’s more the reverse,”Greenspan said in an interview today on CNBC. “What we do know is stock prices are a leading indicator.”

I’m having a little trouble parsing those sentences. If the stock market is a leading indicator, then the ten percent drop in the Dow Jones Industrial Average in the last quarter (the worst performance since the fall of 2008) suggests that the economy is headed south. But Greenspan also appears to be saying that the slumping stock market is now responsible for the slowing economy. Can the stock market be a leading indicator and the prime actor at the same time?

I don’t think there is much mystery as to what is going on in the stock market. GDP growth for the most recent quarter has been revised downwards twice. The labor market recovery has stalled out — on Thursday, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported that jobless claims in the U.S. rose again last week. Europe has all kinds of problems and manufacturing growth is slowing in China. The U.S. government is hamstrung — despite a phenomenally low cost of borrowing (the yield for a ten-year-maturity Treasury bond is under 3 percent) — the prospect of additional counter-cyclical government spending is nil.

I would like to believe Greenspan is right, but where’s the evidence?

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In the hot tub time machine with Alan Greenspan

The "Maestro" tells Americans we can't afford our future. Ten years ago, he sang a different tune

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In the hot tub time machine with Alan Greenspan

The federal government of the United States better get its finances in order, warns Alan Greenspan in the Wall Street Journal today, or we’re going to be in big, big trouble!

If I were seeing a therapist, I’m sure she would warn me that my recent habit of reading opinion pieces in the Journal and then collapsing into a fit of apoplectic befuddlement is not good for either my long-term health or sanity. Calmer minds might  wonder why we should bother paying any attention to the “Maestro” — a man whose deepest convictions about the infallibility of self-correcting markets have been proven so profoundly wrong. But after Calculated Risk reminded me of a speech Greenspan gave to Congress in 2001, a speech that just gets better and better with each rereading in the years since, I simply could not resist. Please bear with me.

First, two paragraphs from his Journal piece.

The current federal debt explosion is being driven by an inability to stem new spending initiatives. Having appropriated hundreds of billions of dollars on new programs in the last year and a half, it is very difficult for Congress to deny an additional one or two billion dollars for programs that significant constituencies perceive as urgent. The federal government is currently saddled with commitments for the next three decades that it will be unable to meet in real terms. This is not new. For at least a quarter century analysts have been aware of the pending surge in baby boomer retirees….

We cannot grow out of these fiscal pressures. The modest-sized post-baby-boom labor force, if history is any guide, will not be able to consistently increase output per hour by more than 3 percent annually. The product of a slowly growing labor force and limited productivity growth will not provide the real resources necessary to meet existing commitments.

Sounds grim, doesn’t it. We’ve seen this coming for 25 years, but in the last year and a half, we’ve lost all restraint and the only hope now is massive cuts in spending.

With that in mind, let us jump in Alan Greenspan’s hot tub time machine (yes, I conjured up that image on purpose) and return to 2001, when the U.S. federal government was sitting on a fat budget surplus. Back then, Alan Greenspan’s big fear was that the government might actually end up paying off the national debt, and then start using its surplus to accumulate assets that rightfully belonged to the private sector. The future looked too bright!

The most recent projections from OMB and CBO indicate that, if current policies remain in place, the total unified surplus will reach about $800 billion in fiscal year 2010, including an on-budget surplus of almost $500 billion. Moreover, the admittedly quite uncertain long-term budget exercises released by the CBO last October maintain an implicit on-budget surplus under baseline assumptions well past 2030 despite the budgetary pressures from the aging of the baby-boom generation, especially on the major health programs…

Indeed, in almost any credible baseline scenario, short of a major and prolonged economic contraction, the full benefits of debt reduction are now achieved well before the end of this decade — a prospect that did not seem reasonable only a year or even six months ago. Thus, the emerging key fiscal policy need is now to address the implications of maintaining surpluses beyond the point at which publicly held debt is effectively eliminated.

So what happened? As Tim Fernholz reminds us, the fiscally prudent policies pursued and implemented by President Bill Clinton were summarily abandoned — with Greenspan’s tacit approval. The Bush tax cuts, the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, and the prescription drug benefit — none of which were matched by spending cuts, or balanced by offsetting revenue — quickly erased the surplus. Meanwhile, the new spending initiatives of the last year and a half were a direct response to a “major and prolonged economic contraction.”

Funny how it works, huh? When running a budget surplus, Greenspan did not foresee a problem in dealing with the expenses likely to ensue from baby boomer retirement. Instead, the problem was the surplus! But when running a deficit because of policies executed by a Republican government while he was in charge of the Federal Reserve, combined with a rescue effort aimed at counteracting the effects of the financial disaster for which he was at least partly culpable, suddenly, the future is a threat.

I am reading, right now, Liaquat Ahamed’s stunningly good “Lords of Finance,” an exceedingly well-written and fascinating look at the central bankers who bungled the world’s way into the Great Depression. At the outset, Ahamed notes that while the four men who are the focus of his attention, England’s Montagu Norman, the U.S.’s Benjamin Strong, Germany’s Hjalmar Schacht, and France’s Emile Moreau were, during the ’30s, towering figures of international renown, their names have mostly been forgotten now.

Greenspan, I hope, will not be so lucky. But if he is, here’s hoping that the 22nd century spawns a historian as excellent as Ahamed to remind a new generation just how disastrous the tenure of Alan Greenspan was as Federal Reserve chairman, and how the Wall Street Journal regularly provided a venue for his self-serving, blind hypocrisy.

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