Animation

Pick of the week: A spectacular Cuban-jazz love story

Pick of the week: Surprise Oscar nominee "Chico & Rita" is a smoldering animated romance, with killer music

  • more
    • All Share Services

Pick of the week: A spectacular Cuban-jazz love storyA still from "Chico & Rita"

A dazzling and delightful work of modernist animation, a classic movie romance and a hip-swinging, finger-popping tale of musical revolution, “Chico & Rita” is the first big serendipitous surprise of 2012. Like a lot of other people, I saw this title on the list of Oscar-nominated animated features and gave a baffled shrug. I’d barely heard of it: A movie about Cuban jazz, co-directed by Fernando Trueba, a Spanish filmmaker who won a foreign-language Oscar in 1993 for “Belle Époque,” the erotic roundelay that helped bring Penélope Cruz to international stardom. It sounded, you know, somewhat interesting, a niche film, perhaps a bit educational and spinachy.

Well, I’m here to tell you that the niche for “Chico & Rita” includes you, if you are interested in music or art or movies or love. Or, for that matter, in Havana or New York or Las Vegas or Hollywood or Paris, the cities captured with such verve, passion and style by Javier Mariscal, the well-known Spanish designer and artist who crafted this film’s visual universe. (Mariscal and Trueba co-directed “Chico & Rita” with Tono Errando, who is Mariscal’s brother.) Balancing the tropical primary colors of pre-revolutionary Cuba with a wintry, neon-flavored vision of bebop-era Manhattan, “Chico & Rita” is an ecstatic musical and visual celebration, taking its cues from Gauguin and Picasso in one direction, from Dizzy Gillespie and Tito Puente in another.

I should tell you straight out that “Chico & Rita” isn’t for kids, unless your kid is a sophisticated character who has the birds-&-bees stuff down, and a worldly view of human passions to boot. That’s almost too bad, because there’s so much 20th-century cultural history, and so much pure delight, packed into this 94-minute package. But this is an animated movie that features abundant nudity, sex, betrayal, moral cowardice and heartbreak, along with a supremely romantic conclusion that left me weeping in the dark. I’m pretty sure I wasn’t alone, because the press screening I attended broke into spontaneous applause during the closing credits (and that pretty much never happens).

There’s another creator of “Chico & Rita” who’s just as important as the three directors, and that’s Cuban pianist and bandleader Bebo Valdés, a major figure in Cuban pop and Latin jazz whose career was recently revived after a long exile from both music and his homeland. (His son, pianist Chucho Valdés, is arguably even more famous.) Still vigorous and still working at age 93, Valdés has composed and arranged a dynamic soundtrack that embraces the rhythmic Cuban pop music of his youth — especially the mambo and the batanga, which was his invention — and also the extraordinary moment of fusion when Afro-Cuban music entered the New York-centric, African-American world of jazz.

Valdés has made two previous films with Fernando Trueba, the Latin jazz documentary “Calle 54″ and the concert film “Blanco y Negro,” which captured Valdés’ collaboration with flamenco singer Diego El Cigala. It’s reasonable to assume that the character of Chico (voiced by Eman Xor Oña), whom we first meet as an elderly Havana shoeshine man who hasn’t played piano for years, is drawn from his biography. (Valdés has actually lived in Europe since the early ’60s, but only resumed his musical career in 1994.) From there we leap back to the late ’40s, when Chico is a brash and handsome young piano player from the hinterlands who arrives in Havana planning to set the town on fire. When Chico and his best friend Ramón (Mario Guerra) first lay eyes on fast-rising singer Rita (voiced by Limara Meneses) they understand right away that she’s the musical talent, as well as the eye candy, that they need to strike it rich. Chico is obviously smitten on a more personal level as well, but Rita — a city girl used to, um, “dating” visiting Yanks –wants nothing to do with this small-town hick. Until she hears him play.

Chico’s piano playing is handled by Valdés, of course, and Rita’s singing is done by the marvelous Cuban singer Idania Valdés (no relation, I believe), who turns the schmaltzy Mexican pop hit “Bésame mucho” into a smoldering torch song. Bebo Valdés really was the house bandleader at Havana’s swanky Tropicana Club during the years before the Cuban revolution, and I think we can assume that the wide open, musically fertile and almost Darwinian atmosphere captured in the film is true to life. The night when Chico and Rita become lovers is one of the steamiest, and most romantic, sequences in the history of animated cinema, and the pain of young love improperly nurtured is acute.

If the screenplay by Trueba and Ignacio Martínez de Pisón follows a familiar “Star Is Born” trajectory — boy gets girl, boy loses girl; their careers take off in different directions yet we know they will meet again — the images are so inventive and the music so magical that it all feels new. You certainly don’t have to be a jazz aficionado to appreciate “Chico & Rita,” but fans will find treasures inside treasures here: Jimmy Heath playing tenor sax “as” Ben Webster, Michael Philip Mossman playing Dizzy Gillespie, Germán Velazco playing Charlie Parker, Amadito Valdés as Tito Puente and Freddy Cole impersonating his far more famous brother, Nat.

Lured by the almighty Yankee dollar, and by the musical revolution known as bebop, Chico, Rita and Ramón all make their way from the vibrant, horizontal warmth of Havana to the forbidding, vertical and almost monochromatic landscape of New York. As famed percussionist Chano Pozo — whose recordings with Gillespie launched the Latin-jazz fusion — warns them, Cubans in New York faced a double whammy, being both blacks and Spanish-speaking immigrants. There were other hazards too; Pozo himself died in a Harlem bar fight in 1948, supposedly after buying a bag of low-grade marijuana from his assailant.

While Chico becomes a prominent pianist on the jazz circuit, Rita becomes something much bigger and less stable — a celebrity, a Latin bombshell packaged to the public as a star of Broadway and Hollywood and Vegas showrooms. (Like Sammy Davis Jr. and Harry Belafonte and other black stars of the period, Rita discovers that she can perform at the big Las Vegas hotels, but can’t stay in them.) How long can a black girl from Havana keep on driving pink Cadillacs and dating rich white guys? And when fate throws Chico and Rita back together, and they set a date for a Vegas wedding, why doesn’t he show up?

I don’t think Rita is based on any one real-life figure; it’s true that Valdés spent several years as pianist and arranger for Tropicana headliner Rita Montaner, but she was almost 20 years older than him, and died in 1958. Valdés emigrated from Cuba in 1960 along with singer Rolando La Serie, his friend and frequent collaborator, and married a Swedish woman after moving to Stockholm. Arguably the film’s Rita is a fantasy woman, but it’s a fantasy of the best and most beautiful kind, infused with the passion and tragedy of the Cuban experience. “Chico & Rita” is a big and glorious love story, with only a few glancing allusions to politics. But along the way it argues that Cubans have given the world — and American culture — so much, and have only suffered for it. Isn’t it long past time for Americans to end our bizarre policy toward that beautiful island?

“Chico & Rita” opens this week at the Angelika Film Center in New York, with wider national release to follow.

What to watch instead of “Winnie the Pooh”

While the yellow bear makes a comeback on the big screen, his Soviet doppelganger Vinni Pukh deserves some love too

  • more
    • All Share Services

What to watch instead of Vinni Pukh (or Vinni-Puh), the Soviet cousin of Winnie the Pooh.

With its totally un-Pixarlated look and nougaty nostalgia core, Disney’s new “Winnie the Pooh” movie might be the perfect antidote for the summer 3-D blockbuster. Then again, do you really want to pay $12 for a film whose main appeal is that it feels old? Not to get all Eeyore on you, but I’d just as soon fork over my money for something I haven’t seen before. (Which also rules out the new “Transformers,” with its reused fight sequences.)

I know I’m not the intended audience for “Winnie the Pooh,” and by all rights, it looks like a very cute picture. But if you’re looking for a more far-out interpretation of A.A. Milne’s children’s classic, check out the Soviet-era “Vinni Pukh” cartoons (sometimes translated as Vinnie-Puh), a trilogy of Russian shorts based on Boris Zakhoder’s translation of “Winnie the Pooh.”

Not only does Pukh-Pooh look and talk like an Ewok, but the world he inhabits is beautifully sketched out in smudged colored pencil, giving you the sensation that you are actually watching animated characters walk around the illustrated landscape of a children’s book.

Episode One: “ Winnie the Pooh

 

Episode Two: “ Winnie the Pooh Goes Visiting

 

Episode Three (in two parts): “Winnie the Pooh and a Day of Care

For any native Russian speakers out there: How well does the translation hold up? Do you prefer Vinni Pukh, or the American Pooh?

Continue Reading Close

Drew Grant is a staff writer for Salon. Follow her on Twitter at @videodrew.

Can “Winnie the Pooh” save Disney from Pixar?

An utterly charming new adventure with the Bear of Little Brain offers a delicious antidote to digital animation

  • more
    • All Share Services

Can

Can a Bear of Very Little Brain redeem the tarnished reputation of Walt Disney’s venerable animation studio and stake his place on the cultural landscape alongside Buzz Lightyear and Lightning McQueen? That’s a lot to ask of a tubby little cubbie whose principal concern is finding a pot of honey — sorry, hunny — but Disney’s whimsical and charming new “Winnie the Pooh” feels simultaneously like a return to the company’s more innocent past and a refreshing new direction. Specifically recalling the hand-drawn animation style of the widely beloved 1966 “Winnie the Pooh and the Honey Tree” and its sequels (anthologized in the 1977 collection “The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh”), and delivering only the faintest contemporary tweak to the Milne material, Stephen J. Anderson and Don Hall’s “Winnie the Pooh” will thoroughly delight both the under-10 set and their nostalgic parents. Look for this to be a surprisingly potent sleeper hit; I’m going a second time this weekend.

Sterling Holloway, who provided the classic Pooh voice in the ’60s, has been dead almost 20 years, but Jim Cummings (who also voices Tigger) has amiably filled the role in numerous lower-budget Disney productions and sounds uncannily similar. With John Cleese as narrator, Craig Ferguson as Owl and Jack Boulter as Christopher Robin, this production also has the right degree of authentic British-ness. (It’s somehow fine with me that Pooh, along with Bud Luckey’s Eeyore, sounds a bit more American.) But the real star of “Winnie the Pooh” is the imaginative animation, which features not one but two classic Disney surrealist sequences and a bit of playful postmodernism: Pooh frequently interacts with Cleese’s narrator, or wanders out of the Hundred Acre Wood into the paragraphs of the book, accidentally bringing letters and punctuation marks back with him.

Of course the Mouse has been relentlessly cashing in on A.A. Milne’s dimwit ursine hero ever since acquiring the rights from Milne’s widow in 1961, and much of that output doesn’t bear (ha!) thinking about: Piglet and Tigger got their own spinoff movies; there were Christmas and Thanksgiving and Valentine’s Day specials and a seemingly endless series of tot-oriented “Winnie the Pooh Learning” and “Winnie the Pooh Playtime” titles. Let’s not even bring up “Franken Pooh.” Well, you can forget about all that stuff; Anderson and Hall have banished the insipid primary colors, not to mention the third-rate outsourced animation, and this film has the lovingly crafted, storybook feeling that was once Disney’s specialty.

“Winnie the Pooh” feels like a turning point in the brief tenure of Walt Disney Animation Studios head John Lasseter — whose other company, Pixar, effectively destroyed Disney’s old in-house animation unit. Lasseter has said frequently that Disney Animation should have its own identity, one that draws on the company’s glorious past and doesn’t simply ape Pixar’s success, and maybe now we can see what that means. “Winnie the Pooh” doesn’t look or feel anything like a Pixar movie, and it is specifically not trying to be a “kidult” crossover success, after the fashion of almost every Pixar production. But it also feels mercifully free of the combined calculation and sloppiness that have plagued so many Disney features in recent years, and one could argue that the painstaking attention to animation and storytelling reflect Lasseter’s stewardship.

Let’s take to the way-back machine for a minute. Ever since the Walt Disney Co. began its partnership with Pixar, then an upstart digital-animation studio run out of an industrial park in Emeryville, Calif., the Mouse’s own in-house animation unit has struggled to keep up. Actually, that’s being euphemistic; what really happened was that Pixar kicked Walt Disney Feature Animation’s butt so badly that the division was ultimately dissolved and renamed. In 1995, “Toy Story,” the first Disney-Pixar release, grossed $354 million worldwide, which represented at least a tenfold return on its production costs. Walt Disney Feature Animation also had a big hit that year with “Pocahontas,” which premiered outdoors in New York’s Central Park and went on to its own $300 million-plus worldwide take. (Mind you, it also cost several times more to make than “Toy Story” did.)

Not even Lasseter, who co-founded Pixar and directed “Toy Story,” would have predicted 16 years ago that Pixar would go from one massive success to the next, becoming one of the most beloved brands in entertainment history, or that “Pocahontas” was the last big hurrah, or next-to-last, for Walt Disney Feature Animation, which had created such massive hits as “The Little Mermaid,” “Beauty and the Beast” and “The Lion King.” When Pixar released “Toy Story 2″ in 1999, another huge worldwide hit, WDFA’s big release was “Tarzan,” a wildly expensive production (not to mention an entirely forgettable film) that probably ended up in the red. Disney’s in-house studio had one more sizable hit, with “Lilo & Stitch” in 2002. But that movie earned $100 million less than Pixar’s “Monsters Inc.” had a year earlier and took in less than one-third the worldwide gross of Pixar’s huge 2003 hit, “Finding Nemo.”

At that point the writing was on the wall: Pixar engaged an enormous public with cutting-edge animation technology and appealing characters and stories, and reaped untold billions in box-office receipts, tie-in merchandise and ancillaries. Disney’s in-house animation studio, on the other hand, was an embarrassing albatross. There were straight-to-video quickies, cashing in on existing properties in the most unfortunate Disney tradition: “Mickey’s Twice Upon a Christmas” and “Mulan II” and “Tarzan II” (with “new songs by Phil Collins,” apparently meant as an inducement). The last release under the aegis of Walt Disney Feature Animation was “Chicken Little” in 2005, a work of supremely crappy-looking fake-Pixar animation that features 11 credited writers and Zach Braff in the title role. I would have been happy to completely forget that movie’s existence. (In fact I had, until now).

Lasseter has been at the helm of the reconstituted Walt Disney Animation Studios for almost five years, while continuing to run Pixar, and the results of this seemingly contradictory role are still a bit unclear. The first two Disney features made on his watch, “Meet the Robinsons” and “Bolt,” felt way too much like Pixar movies, with substandard animation and the rough edges sanded off. I’m aware there’s a critical constituency for both films, but that didn’t extend far into the public, and both were box-office flops. With the hand-drawn “Princess and the Frog” and the digital “Tangled,” Disney tried to breathe new life into its classic tradition of adapting fairy tales. Neither performed as well as expected, but they displayed more craft, integrity and audience appeal than any other Disney animated feature in years. (“Tangled” was reportedly so expensive to make that even its worldwide gross of almost $400 million might not have returned a profit; “The Princess and the Frog” failed to click with American audiences but did well overseas.)

It’s almost not worth mentioning that “The Princess and the Frog” was artistically and financially eclipsed by Pixar’s “Up,” and that “Tangled” was obliterated by the astonishing billion-dollar worldwide gross of “Toy Story 3,” the biggest animated feature in history. The same thing is likely happen again this summer; even though many Pixar-friendly critics have turned against Lasseter’s “Cars 2,” audiences don’t seem to mind. But coming as it does after those two films, “Winnie the Pooh” feels like more than a small summer surprise that will utterly charm 3-year-olds and 93-year-olds. It feels like a Walt Disney animated film, in the best possible sense of that term, and another significant step toward restoring that company’s dignity and sense of purpose.

Continue Reading Close

Your guide to day one at Comic-Con

The schedule is set for the opening date of the country's largest collective geek-out. Here's what you need to know

  • more
    • All Share Services

Your guide to day one at Comic-ConGet ready to rock out.

San Diego’s annual Comic-Con can be a very scary place for the uninitiated. With thousands of panels, screenings and artist booths, the four-day entertainment convention is perhaps the only place in the world where you can have a panic attack while staring at six versions of “Sexy Leia.”

In two weeks, nerds will descend en mass to California, and in preparation, the producers of Comic-Con have posted the schedule of events for the kickoff day on July 21. (Technically there is a preview night, but who is counting?)

If you’re still feeling overwhelmed, we’ve prepared a brief guide of the day’s must-sees, as well as what programs to avoid.

Definitely catch: “Game of Thrones” panel

Author George R.R. Martin moderates a panel featuring series executive producers David Benioff and D.B. Weiss as well as cast members Emilia Clarke, Nikolaj Coster-Waldau, Peter Dinklage, Kit Harington and Jason Momoa.

I know this is going to be the hot ticket event of the first day, but I’m not sure if it’s because the show is so popular, or if fans are just going with a bag of rocks to pelt at George R.R. Martin’s head. Either way, it’s not to be missed. Bring your Flip cam.

Definitely avoid: “Battlestar”: So Say We All

Richard Hatch hosts a panel and fan discussion of the “Battlestar Galactica” universe, politics and philosophy with Hatch (Tom Zarek, Capt. Apollo), Michael Taylor (“Battlestar Galactica,” “Caprica,” “Blood and Chrome”), Dr. Kevin Grazier (BG science consultant), and surprise guests for this exciting roundtable and Q&A session.

Guys: “Battlestar” is over. Time to move on. Now, someone show me the way to that Damon Lindelof/”Lost” theory panel.

Definitely catch: “Oh, You Sexy Geek!”

Does displaying the sexiness of fangirls benefit or demean them? When geek girls show off, are they liberating themselves or pandering to men? Do some “fake fangirls” blend sex appeal with nerdiness just to appeal to the growing geek/nerd market, or is that question itself unfair? And what’s up with all the slave Leias? Action flick chick Katrina Hill (ActionFlickChick.com) asks Bonnie Burton (Grrl.com), Adrianne Curry (“America’s Next Top Model”), Clare Grant (Team Unicorn, “G33k & G4m3r Girls”), Kiala Kazebee (Nerdist.com), Clare Kramer (“Buffy the Vampire Slayer”), Nerdy Bird Jill Pantozzi (“Has Boobs, Reads Comics”), Jennifer K. Stuller (Ink-Stained Amazons, GeekGirlCon) and Chris Gore (G4TV’s Attack of the Show!) to discuss whether fans can be sexy and geeky at the same time — and if they should!

I’d say that you could just watch the mashup of hot chicks on late-night shows and save yourself the effort, but since these are actual nerd girls discussing gender issues and not just Mila Kunis talking about World of Warcraft, it’s worth making time for.

Avoid:  TV Guide Magazine: Fan Favorites

TV Guide is back with an all-star panel for the fans! Moderated by editor in chief Debra Birnbaum, Fan Favorites features your favorite talent from your favorite shows — in front of the camera and behind the scenes. Panelists include Nestor Carbonell (“Ringer”), Johnny Galecki (“The Big Bang Theory”), Jorge Garcia (“Alcatraz”), Leslie Hope (“The River”), Zachary Levi (“Chuck”), Joe Manganiello (“True Blood”), Julie Plec (“Vampire Diaries”), Matt Smith (“Doctor Who”), Kevin Williamson (“Vampire Diaries”), Deborah Ann Woll (“True Blood”), and others.

What a clusterfuck … do the same people who want to see Jorge Garcia or Matt Smith really care about what “Chuck” or the guy from “The Big Bang Theory” have to say? I imagine this panel will be the real-life approximation of channel-surfing when you’re bored.

Definitely catch: Entertainment Weekly: The Visionaries: A discussion with Jon Favreau and Guillermo del Toro on the Future of Pop Culture

EW moderates an in-depth conversation with Jon Favreau (“Cowboys & Aliens”) and Guillermo del Toro (“Don’t Be Afraid of the Dark”), two filmmakers at the forefront of bringing geek culture to the masses and making blockbuster art out of pulp fiction. They will discuss their inspirations, their current work, and how they strive to put a personal stamp on blockbuster entertainment. Plus: How is new technology changing the way stories are produced and viewed? And what do they think the pop culture universe will look like a decade from now? Moderated by Jeff “Doc” Jensen.

Comic-Con is one of the first places that “cool” directors will leak spoilers and info about their upcoming features, so get a front seat and turn on your tape recorder in case Guillermo del Toro lets something slip about “Pacific Rim.”

Bonus “Don’t Miss” screenings: Mike Judge hosting the new “Beavis & Butt-Head” episodes, “Archer” viewing and cast discussion, and the exclusive premiere of “Burn Notice: The Fall of Sam Axe.” Just kidding.

This list is far from definitive. What events are you most looking forward to for Comic-Con?

Continue Reading Close

Drew Grant is a staff writer for Salon. Follow her on Twitter at @videodrew.

Today’s must-see viral videos

Watch: James Franco's new music video, celebrity tweets as street theater, and Neil Gaiman's encounter with Gollum

  • more
    • All Share Services

Today's must-see viral videosThe Porta Potty Peeper

1. James Franco’s music video

With drag artist Kalup Linzy, whom the actor is collaborating with for an upcoming album, “Turn It Up.” If the new video for their track “Rising” is any indication, we’re in for a real treat (laced with LSD and given to you by your creepy neighbor).

 

2. Celebrity tweets as public announcements

Kourtney Kardashian’s musing, “Do ants have dicks?” makes that much less sense when some guy is going around yelling it on the street.

 

3. Two movies, one plot

I love Justin Timberlake, but I’m not sure if I’m ready to see “No Strings Attached 2: Electric Boogaloo” so soon after the original.

 

4. Neil Gaiman, “Mythbusters” and Gollum

I am so happy that this exists: “American Gods” author Neil Gaiman convinces Adam Savage from “Mythbusters” to do his best “Lord of the Rings” character impression. Why? Who cares. It’s awesome.

 

5. “Porta Potty Peeper” gets the Taiwanese animation treatment

Thanks to Next Media Animation for alerting me to this story. This guy is so bad at peeping! There must be other ways to snoop on girls that don’t involve waiting around for hours inside a toilet, covered in feces.

Continue Reading Close

Drew Grant is a staff writer for Salon. Follow her on Twitter at @videodrew.

Comedian Jon Benjamin has a van…and a voice

Jon Benjamin talks about his new live-action show -- and why he hates recording your voice mail messages

  • more
    • All Share Services

Comedian Jon Benjamin has a van...and a voiceJon Benjamin's van.

You might not know who Jon Benjamin was if he bumped into you on the street, but as soon as he opens his mouth, he’s instantly recognizable. He’s on “Family Guy” as Carl the convenience store clerk, Ben Katz from Comedy Central’s “Dr. Katz,” Coach McGuirk from “Home Movies,” and Bob from Fox’s new series “Bob’s Burgers.” But the comedian is now showing his face on “Jon Benjamin has a Van,” a faux-news show that recently premiered on Comedy Central.

I spoke to Ben over the phone about the jet-setting lifestyle of one of TV’s most famous voices — and why he won’t record your outgoing voicemail.

So, the obvious question: Why a live show now?

Drew, there are tons of live shows on television … Oh why a live show about me?

Yes.

Because you do know that most of the television you watch is live-action.

The major networks, generally. But for you, personally, you’ve done so much voice work.

Well I’ve been a massive failure for years and years, so it’s hard to get a live show on the air, apparently. I’ve tried, a bunch of times. But no, they … um, didn’t like me. But it wasn’t for lack of trying. I wasn’t suddenly like “Time to pitch a show!”

I remember an old SuicideGirl interview you did a long time ago, where they said you turned down more roles than any other actor.

(Laughs) Where did they get a statistic like that?

It sounds like an IMDB trivia fact.

Oh, those IMDB facts don’t mean anything, they aren’t real. Do they take the mean average?

I’m guessing so. Like one year you might turn down less roles than Daniel Day-Lewis, but it evens out.

It is absolutely between me and Daniel Day-Lewis for the record, and he’s up by three right now because he just turned down “Two and a Half Men.”

As did you.

Well, I turned down the Jon Cryer part. They were going to replace both of them and have me and Daniel.

Who was going to play the kid?

Seth Green. We should just do a live show of that. So no: I’ve heard that quote before, about turning down the roles, and I think it’s just silly.

You have taken small roles in movies. You were a doctor in “Not Another Teen Movie” for three seconds, and Miranda’s co-worker who thought she was a lesbian on “Sex And the City.” But it’s your voice that’s well, really made you famous. I had a boyfriend in college who actually wanted to grow up to be Ben Katz from Dr. Katz.

It’s such an easy goal to succeed.

Was that your first role?

It was my first job, I think.

And then “Home Movies,” spots of “Venture Brothers” and “Aqua Teen,” and now “Archer” and “Bob’s Burgers.” After decades of doing voice work, it does seem like you prefer to work in that medium.

It’s true. There are times I’ve turned down sitcoms and other opportunities. I don’t know whether that was a bad or good idea, ultimately. But there were far more times where I’ve been rejected. So it’s not like I say “no” to work so much … actually I’ve never said “no” because I just have a guy that says “no” for me.

Well there is this sense that now with “Archer” and “Jon Benjamin has a Van,” you’ve become more recognizable, maybe more mainstream even? Do you think those cult Jon Benjamin fans are going to see this as you getting too recognizable? Selling out?

Ha. Yeah. “I remember when he was cool.”

Or, “He was better as that talking can from ‘Wet Hot American Summer.’”

Funny thing. I never saw that scene in the movie when it came out. But I mean, I know I’m in it. Back to the point: I’m not concerned about “selling out” because I have to make a living, but I am slightly concerned with people watching ["Jon Benjamin has a Van"] and not enjoying the cartoons as much.

Really? Like people will have a harder time associating you with “Archer” after this?

Yeah, but that might just be a weird. That might not be true. Everyone knows who Homer Simpson is.

Do they?

Oh yeah, you should see the two of us walking around together.

That sounds like the best day in Hollywood ever. I remember back when you were making web videos for (Huffington Post’s now defunct comedy website) 23/6, you were doing segments that weren’t just live-action, but were in the same satiric news format as your new show.  Were these ideas you’ve had kicking around?

It’s probably more the comedy I gravitate towards. Boring. Dry. Occasionally funny. So yeah, it’s a good medium for me. After 23/6 I did a pilot for Vice where I had like a cable access show where we did a bunch of fake interviews that were supposed to take place in the 80s. So I had been doing stuff in that vein. “Midnight Pajama Jam” was a live show I did where the main thrust of it was a talk show, a segment with a guest. It was our way of getting comedy out there.

A lot of articles talk about the dual-format of “Jon Benjamin”: Half of it is on the street interviews with real people, and the other half are these scripted fake segments that are also interviews. I’m trying to imagine your pitch meeting for the show.

I showed them “Midnight Pajama Jam,” actually. Some street pieces I did where I’d go out and talk to people in the city, or one where my friend was a sock puppet and we talked to people. And some of it ended up on the show, like the “Do You Have a Minute” segment.

My favorite thing from “Midnight Pajama Jam” was the Hello Squad. Can you tell this is becoming less an interview and more me telling you what stuff you’ve done?

I actually feel like I’m on a job interview for your company. “So ‘Midnight Pajama Jam’…help us remember…what was that?”

So Jon: What are your biggest strengths and weaknesses you think you can bring to this company? And then we’ll go over employee stock options.

Strength OR weakness? My greatest strength is my greatest weakness. I have a, um, very resonant, deep voice. So that is a strength. Bu what is my biggest strength that is also my greatest weakness … I like have incredible sexual prowess.

Good to know, because…

No, I mean, it won’t stop. I want it to stop, but it won’t. It’s too crazy. I mean I don’t stop. Ever.

Well now the voice acting is making a little more sense. Do they have to shoot you from the waist up on the show?

Yeah, you know like priapism? I’m like that, but without the medication.

I’m like a mythological creature.

Like when you took the form of a stallion as Master in “Venture Brothers?”

Good job bringing it back to my credits.

I’m about to do it again: So you’re doing “Bob’s Burger’s” on Fox, “Archer” is getting a third season, and you’re now starring in your own Comedy Central show. That schedule must be interesting.

Well I have plenty of time on my hands, ironically. I’m done shooting “Van,” and voice work … it’s not like you have to go to an office every day and do “Bob’s Burger’s.”

You get off easier than the writers.

Well, “Archer” is written by one guy, which is pretty crazy. Sometimes when we record, he’s not there because he’s holed up writing the next episode.

That show is a revelation.

Without a doubt, I love “Archer.” I like me in it, obviously, I am very good. But the whole thing, it’s very awkward, but I’ll literally watch the show and forget I’m in it. And not like “I’m so good, I’m losing myself watching my own character.” The show is just that good.

With your distinct voice, how many people ask you to record their outgoing voice messages?

Oh yeah, I summarily refuse to do those. I used to do that all the time. But then I had a breakthrough where I was like “Fuck off.”

Oh?

I will say that to anyone. “Fuck off.” I will leave you a message that says “I don’t want to be doing this right now.” I mean, I won’t actually say that … it’s just always so awkward, and the guy always has to set it up on his phone while I just stand there. “Oh, Jenny is going to love this, hold on man, let me just find her number.” Come on already, can I go?

No, you can’t.

No … I was saying that in character.

I know, and I was responding in the character of the guy who wants you on his outgoing voicemail. It must be odd to have a fan base of people just obsessed with your voice.

It is. Some people just want me to talk to them. And the people I know don’t want me to talk to them at all.

You should start a service, “Jon Benjamin will talk to you.” And you can charge money.

I would make at least $500 a year.

(Click below to hear Jon’s special message to Salon’s readers — ie. the outgoing message he recorded on my voicemail)

Jon Benjamin by saradrewgrant

“Jon Benjamin Has a Van” is on every Wednesday at 10:30/9:30c on Comedy Central

Continue Reading Close

Drew Grant is a staff writer for Salon. Follow her on Twitter at @videodrew.

Page 1 of 3 in Animation