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Meet the Assads

Before violence erupted in Syria, Bashar al-Assad and his fashionable wife, Asma, were sometime media darlings VIDEO

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Meet the AssadsAsma al-Assad (Credit: Reuters/Khaled al-Hariri)

Though the news out of Syria has been almost uniformly awful recently — fighting spreading to Damascus and Aleppo, rumors of Russian “anti-terror” troops in the country supporting President Bashar al-Assad, accusations of human rights abuses by some anti-government forces — we have been treated to a fascinating glimpse into the private world of an embattled dictator, thanks to the leak of thousands of Bashar al-Assad’s personal emails. The trove has proved to be perversely comic, with female aides sending the strongman little love notes and at least one unsubstantiated underwear picture. The emails also offer insight into the life of Assad’s wife, Asma, who has continued buying — or attempting to buy — expensive luxury goods while her husband struggles to maintain control of his country. They’re both international pariahs now (except in Moscow), but not long ago, self-pitying Bashar and his fashionable wife, Asma, were two of the Western celebrity media’s favorite autocrats.

Asma al-Assad is British born and, yes, a former banker. She worked at Deutsche Bank and J.P. Morgan before marrying Bashar and moving to Syria to be that country’s first lady-for-life. Because she grew up in secular, liberal Britain, and is worldly and cosmopolitan, lots of people assumed, without much in the way of evidence, that she’d help her husband “modernize” Syria, and push him to support women’s rights and more civil freedoms. Now he’s clinging to power by any means necessary, and thousands of people are dead.

The fact that Asma al-Assad is “one of us” — a native English-speaker with a finance background, the sort of person a globetrotting journalist would probably get along with — led a lot of very bad journalists to assume that the Assads were not actually that bad; “This man is not like Qaddafi,” in the words of Barbara Walters, who vacationed — actually vacationed! — with the Assads in 2008. Here’s Ann Curry’s glowing profile of the glamorous Syrian first lady from the NBC Nightly News back in 2008:

Asma Assad is a revelation — with a competitive edge learned on Wall Street, a light-up-the-room charisma, and a down-to-earth touch. Born and raised in Britain, she is now the modern face of Syria.”

(Ann Curry’s second-best line: “Do you ever pinch yourself, stop and say look, I am the first lady of Syria?”)

Even more embarrassing, somehow, was Vogue’s Asma al-Assad profile, which, unfortunately for Vogue, ran shortly after the bloody crackdown began, at the beginning of last year. The magazine has disappeared the story, but it’s readily available online. Assad’s brutality made the entire thing read like a sick joke — a thousand dead rebels, civilians and children make it much harder to understand why it’s admirable or impressive that the wife of Syria’s autocratic leader is glamorous and modern. (“On Friday, the Muslim day of rest, Asma al-Assad opens the door herself in jeans and old suede stiletto boots, hair in a ponytail, the word happiness spelled out across the back of her T-shirt. At the bottom of the stairs stands the off-duty president in jeans—tall, long-necked, blue-eyed.” All three of the Assad’s children, we also learn, attend Montessori school.)

It turned out, of course, that the Syrian government had contracted with a major American and British P.R. firm to help convince Vogue to run that glamorous photo shoot and soft-focus profile. (The same P.R. firm that reps for MEK. It’s a small world, and one full of so many deplorable people.) It seems weirdly appropriate for such a “modern” dictator that the increasingly isolated Assad relies more and more on the counsel of various young women with P.R. experience.

Well, it turned out that when Asma al-Assad, in Vogue, described her household as “wildly democratic,” she was being not just viciously ironic but also facetious. She described herself, with a particularly poor choice of words in an email to a friend, as “the REAL dictator” in the Assad household, because she makes her actual dictator husband listen to her. Oh, those Assads.

The good news is that the EU has decided to make it marginally more difficult for Asma al-Assad to buy things on the Internet. But the Assads are a useful object lesson for future dictators: Good P.R. and Western elite consumer habits will go a long way to convince certain people that you can’t be that bad.

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Alex Pareene writes about politics for Salon and is the author of "The Rude Guide to Mitt." Email him at apareene@salon.com and follow him on Twitter @pareene

Paris Hilton’s reality show may tank, but she won’t

"The World According to Paris" might be a failure for Oxygen and the heiress alike, but her "career" is fine

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Paris Hilton's reality show may tank, but she won'tParis Hilton catching flack on "The View."

People are taking a schadenfreudian delight in the apparent failure of Paris Hilton’s new reality show, “The World According to Paris.” Low ratings, bad press … the whole spectacle really does need to be put out of its misery. Personally I think it was a branding problem: while Oxygen may be fine for “Tori & Dean,” that’s a program predicated on the idea that Tori Spelling is a mother and wife first, star second. Paris and her unapologetic vapidity belong more in the E! family, along with the Kardashians, Kendra, and “Sex and the City” reruns.

But since I’m not in control of television programming (fingers crossed for next season!), Paris’ future isn’t in my hands. But it’s also not in the hands of her critics, who are gleefully calling Paris “passé,” and the bombing of her latest show the end of her career.

Which begs the question: what career? I’m not being rhetorical, since Paris Hilton’s brand image extends far beyond this one flop. Do you think people will stop buying Paris Hilton perfume because no one tuned in to see Brooke Mueller have an emotional breakdown last week? Do you think her clothing line will magically go away if her show does? Will paparazzi stop following her around? Will her books stop being ghostwritten? Will she no longer be an heiress? Will this even prevent her from getting another reality show in the future? I mean, if “Paris Hilton’s My New BFF” didn’t stop producers from making another show about Paris’ life, I really don’t see it happening next time around.

Paris doesn’t have a career, she has a brand. And a much bigger one than Snooki or the Teen Moms or most of the Kardashians (though she did ride the same sex tape train to fame as Kim). Her ability to get photographers to follow her around isn’t in question here, nor the number of Twitter followers she has, nor her family’s money. So what if Barbara Walters yelled at her on “The View”? Think about it this way: it would be weirder if Barbara hadn’t.

Paris is an irresponsible, vain rich girl who will never have to lift a finger in her life. That may not make for good television right now, when the country is more into Jersey girls and teenage pregnancy and bridalplasty, but as far as her “career” goes, you have to be of the mind that either she’ll still have it post-show, or she never had one in the first place. Both choices lead to the same conclusion: While losing a show might be a blow to Paris’ brand, it’s far from a fatal one. She’s already lost several other reality shows, hasn’t she?

The worse Paris acts, the more attention the media will pay to her. (See also: Lindsay, Britney, the Olsens.) She’s not going anywhere, unless she has a personality transplant and suddenly decides she hates the spotlight.

Sorry, everyone.

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Barbara Walters to have heart valve surgery

TV news legend and host of "The View" will take the summer off to recover

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Barbara Walters said she will have surgery later this week to replace a faulty heart valve and take the summer off from “The View” to recuperate.

The television legend made the announcement on the air Monday. She said she’s known about her condition for a while, and decided with her doctors that this is the best time to have the surgery.

“Since the summer is coming up,” she said, “I can take a nice vacation.”

Walters, 80, is one of the best-known personalities in television news. She began on the “Today” show, was the first woman to anchor a network evening news program, then was one of the toughest competitors in the fierce game of landing sought-after interviews.

At a time others would be slowing down, she created “The View” in 1997, and the daily talk show with a woman’s round-table is a staple on daytime TV.

She said her condition would be a surprise to many friends. “But I thought it best not to talk about it too far in advance.”

Walters said she had not felt any symptoms from the narrowing of the heart valve, which can worsen and restrict the flow of blood to the heart.

Whoopi Goldberg, her co-host on ABC’s “The View,” asked Walters if she is scared.

“Look, nobody wants to have this kind of surgery,” Walters said, but added that it has become more commonplace and done safely.

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Lady Gaga likes ladies. So?

Barbara Walters cross-examines the pop star about her sex life

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Lady Gaga likes ladies. So?U.S. singer Lady Gaga looks on during the German TV show "Wetten dass...?" (Bet it...?) in Braunschweig, November 7, 2009. REUTERS/Axel Heimken/Pool (GERMANY ENTERTAINMENT)(Credit: Reuters)

A straight-faced Barbara Walters uttering the words “bluffin’ with my muffin”? Now that’s what I call must-see TV. This delightfully awkward moment (video below) came during last night’s ABC special, “10 Most Fascinating People of 2009,” during which Walters interviewed Lady Gaga, the pop star behind those infamous lyrics.

Now, B-Dub isn’t one to throw around sexually explicit phrases for no good reason: She brought the line up as a segue to talking about Gaga’s sexuality.”So, people thought you were saying that you were bisexual,” she said. “Are you bisexual?” Gaga responded, “Um, well, I do like women.” No surprise there — she’s long been open about her attraction to women (and these NSFW photos spoke for themselves.) But she pressed on: ”Do you like men, too?” Yes, Gaga said, and she has only ever “been in love with men.” Walters quickly followed up, giving me flashbacks of the cross-examination of Bill Clinton: “Have you had sex with women?” This, dear readers, prompted the most shocking moment of the interview. Lady Gaga, that outrageous, in-your-face performer, seemed suddenly modest and bashful: “Um, uh, well, I … my goodness.”

My goodness, indeed. You sit down with Walters and expect to have an intense discussion about artistic expression or to participate in an excavation of family history meant to induce tears — and then she’s all “poker face,” “muffin bluffin’” and “have you had sex with women?” Whoah, Nellie! But Gaga quickly recovered from her surprise and neutralized the almost accusatory line of questioning with a straightforward response: “I’ve certainly had sexual relationships with women, yes.” You go, Gaga.

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How the election ate daytime television

Why talk shows like "The View" are showcasing some of the most sophisticated (and mind-numbingly stupid) conversations about the presidential race.

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How the election ate daytime television

Eight minutes before the first and only vice-presidential debate, MSNBC’s “Countdown” host, Keith Olbermann, and Newsweek’s Howard Fineman were talking about “The View.”

The opinionated, loud and very male Olbermann was making a point about how low Sarah Palin had sunk in America’s estimation by playing a video clip of the daytime talk show’s resident conservative Elisabeth Hasselbeck. Admitting that Palin’s inability to name a single Supreme Court case besides Roe v. Wade was perhaps worrisome, Hasselbeck conceded, “That was a moment where she should have had some [examples] lined up.”

Olbermann and Fineman chuckled at the possibility that, as goes Elisabeth Hasselbeck, so goes the country. “This is not my usual turf,” said Fineman.

It sure isn’t. But this isn’t anybody’s usual campaign, and what the (still mostly male) political pundits are coming to grips with is that the election cycle is not just playing out on their news shows and their 24-hour networks but also in the traditionally feminine — and therefore traditionally marginalized — world of daytime television.

Credit Sarah Palin, or Hillary Clinton, or unprecedented excitement over the historic candidacy of Barack Obama and appreciation for his exceptionally appealing wife. Maybe it’s the panic about the financial crisis, outrage at the mishandling of the war, fury over gas prices, worries about the environment — all of which are so powerful that they’re causing the election to seep into unexpected cultural corners, like Us Weekly and porn. Whatever the reason, daytime talk shows have showcased some of the most sophisticated (as well as some of the most mind-numbingly stupid) conversations about what’s happening on the political stage this season.

For example, when you hear people on television these days discussing the Wall Street crisis and someone makes the incisive point that when the Feds give money to Wall Street executives, it’s called “a bailout,” but when they give it to regular citizens, “they call it socialism,” you might not be listening to Maddow and Buchanan or Hannity and Colmes but to Whoopi Goldberg and Joy Behar, who conducted just this conversation — along with “View” co-hosts Hasselbeck, Barbara Walters and Sherri Shepherd — in early October. And all before smoothly segueing into an interview “with the fabulous Alec Baldwin.”

And when somebody tosses a political zinger, it might just be Sherri Shepherd, who used to have the least to say politically on the show but is now letting loose like she did on Oct. 6, when Goldberg commented on Obama’s graying hair, and Shepherd quipped, “Every little bit of white helps.”

Strange as it may seem, daytime has historically provided some of the most progressive television in the nation. Long before prime-time TV made room for meaty female characters, soap operas were spinning out stories in which women were central characters. Soaps also provided many of television’s groundbreaking story lines — Erica Kane’s 1973 abortion on “All My Children,” the introduction of a gay character, Hank Elliott, on “As the World Turns” in 1988, “General Hospital’s” Stone battling AIDS in the 1990s — made more powerful by the narrative intimacy afforded by the daily serial format.

But it wasn’t just soaps that pushed the envelope. Phil Donahue’s daily talk show, which ran from 1970 to 1996, focused on topics from atheism to sexuality to Soviet-American relations during the Cold War. Married to “That Girl” feminist icon Marlo Thomas, Donahue focused on the women’s movement. Donahue once told the L.A. Times that he owes his success to the fact that he “discovered early on that the usual idea of women’s programming was a narrow, sexist view. We found that women were interested in a lot more than covered dishes and needlepoint.”

Post-Donahue, there was a devolution in the level of political discourse on daytime; in its place was a spate of shows devoted to personal drama. Hosts like Sally Jessy Raphael, Ricki Lake and, most famously, Jerry Springer populated the airwaves with battling couples, faked paternity tests, revelations of cheating partners, a lot of hair pulling and, on Springer’s show especially, some lusty throwing of chairs. But whatever else there is to say about this genre, it did what little else on television or the movies was doing: It gave a voice and a face and a stage to portions of the American population who otherwise had no outlet for expression — the poor and the working class, as well as gay and transgendered people, transsexuals and other sexual nonconformists.

And, of course, for decades daytime has been the home of culture-changing Oprah Winfrey, who made blackness, and black womanhood, not only visible in the lily-white mainstream media — not only acceptable, not only likable — but also deeply and powerfully relatable. Were it not for Oprah Winfrey, we might not have Barack Obama as our Democratic candidate for president, both because of her early endorsement of his candidacy and also because of her presence and power in American culture.

This makes it all the more fascinating that, as the daytime airwaves flash with political conversation, Winfrey is comparatively silent. In the past, she has invited candidates from both parties on her show, but because of her early and open support of Obama, she has decided not to host any of the presidential candidates. As she told reporters, “At the beginning of this presidential campaign, when I decided that I was going to take my first public stance in support of a candidate, I made the decision not to use my show as a platform for any of the candidates.” This has created an odd dynamic in which one of Obama’s most powerful supporters is unwilling to use her considerable forum to show her support, even at the height of election season.

 

But the Oprah vacuum has created more room for other daytime hosts to get in on the electoral act, not to mention more incentive for candidates to visit shows besides Winfrey’s if they want to reach daytime audiences. Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and John McCain have all been guests on Ellen DeGeneres’ talk show; McCain and Bill Clinton have taken their lumps on “The View,” while Michelle Obama made her first post-primary splash there in June, and in April, during Obama’s appearance, Barabara Walters told him he was “very sexy-looking.” Then again, McCain practically received a massage when he showed up with his wife, Cindy, to cook ribs with Rachael Ray, when the 30-minute chef and presidential candidate even made the dubious pronouncement that he buys his ribs at Costco — just like you!

There seems to be an added incentive for candidates to show up and shill on daytime this year, in part because Clinton’s candidacy and all it entailed made clear that the women’s vote, and women’s views, were in fact going to matter to the outcome of this election. It doesn’t hurt that, between TiVo and the Internet, the daytime audience (after years of contracting) has grown exponentially in recent years, if not for entire episodes of programming then for choice moments. News sites, fashion sites, feminist sites, humor sites — they can now all posts clips from talk shows so that those with day jobs can catch what they missed while they were gone from home. The shows need to up their game in order to increase Internet visibility and play to a broader audience.

But it’s not simply the audience demographics of daytime that have changed. It’s also the face of daytime hosts. Ellen DeGeneres, unceremoniously bounced from prime time after her emergence from the closet, found a home on daytime in 2003 and an audience that loved her, gay or straight. And at “The View,” the wild ride of Rosie O’Donnell’s year-long tenure helped to tune an audience ear to the sound of loud and left-leaning political commentary. The show, thanks to its founder, Barbara Walters, and original moderator, Meredith Vieira, always had a newsy bent. But during Rosie’s time there, “The View” became a forum for shouting matches, often about controversial topics and vociferously voiced partisan opinion. Rosie, of course, was replaced by Whoopi Goldberg — a less divisive but almost as bolshy presence.

It is still relatively safe for guests, and political candidates, to expect the friendly, kid-glove, recipe-heavy/policy-light treatment that McCain received when he appeared on Rachael Ray, when the host asked him about making American diets healthier before allowing him to crow about his proficiency on a barbecue (or the treatment Obama received from the moony ladies at “The View,” or on “Ellen,” when DeGeneres gave him a light dance-and-chat). But it has recently become more common to see politicians, especially John McCain, made uncomfortable by the directness of the conversation on daytime television, a directness that isn’t often found in the more traditional news media.

DeGeneres, who keeps most of her show politically benign (and for the first few years didn’t often mention her lesbianism), has of late made much more of her sexuality, broadcasting video this summer of her wedding to actress Portia de Rossi. Last May, DeGeneres subjected McCain to one of his most uncomfortable interviews, using her upcoming nuptials as a platform on which to grill the candidate about the issue of gay marriage. It should be noted that DeGeneres also questioned Hillary Clinton about her feelings about gay marriage, and that McCain’s willingness to appear on DeGeneres’ show at all was notable, given his attempts at the time to court the conservative base of his party.

“Let’s talk about the big elephant in the room,” DeGeneres said, explaining that she had already been planning to have a commitment ceremony but that, because of the California decision to legalize gay unions, “it just so happens that I legally now can get married, like everyone should.” Her audience clapped as she asked McCain for his thoughts on the topic.

“I think that people should be able to enter into legal agreements and I think that is something we should encourage, particularly in the case of insurance,” said McCain. “I just believe in the unique status of marriage between man and woman. And I know we have a respectful disagreement on that issue.”

Here DeGeneres persisted: “We are all the same people. You’re no different than I am. Our love is the same … When someone says, ‘You’ll have a contract, and you’ll still have insurance … it feels like someone saying, ‘You can sit here, you just can’t sit there.’”

McCain was left to say only, “I’ve heard you articulate that position in a very eloquent fashion. We just have a disagreement and I, along with many many others, wish you every happiness.”

It was a glimpse at what the daytime format makes possible: a breezy, casual, personal exchange as vehicle for a larger social conversation. The moment packs a wallop in part because the heft of the encounter is a surprise, and in part because it is delivered by a host, like DeGeneres, whom viewers feel they know intimately and trust. Instead of watching a political pundit conduct an inside-baseball transaction with a candidate, an audience can feel as if a friend has just asked the questions.

Since her McCain interview, DeGeneres has stuck to her bipartisan good cheer, using what influential cultural power she wields to get people to register to vote. On Oct. 2, the last day before many voter registration deadlines, she welcomed Leonardo DiCaprio to preview a public service announcement they’d made together (along with Dustin Hoffman, Sarah Silverman, Ashton Kutcher, Forest Whittaker and others) encouraging people to register. And she’s been hawking “Laugh. Dance. Vote.” T-shirts and boxers on her show.

If there is any remaining doubt about which candidate might mirror DeGeneres’ political positions (on gay marriage and animal protection, another passion) and which candidate’s prospects might benefit from increased voter turnout, DeGeneres has also tipped her hand (subtly) by allowing some of her more partisan guests to get their digs in. “It’s like they scoured America for a woman,” said reality star Sharon Osbourne on a September episode, in reference to Sarah Palin, “and the last stop before you fell off America was Alaska, and there she was, iced, waiting … It’s like she was a last resort … They want women to vote for her, but women aren’t that stupid.”

This last line provoked wild cheering as DeGeneres nodded, “Uh-huh, uh-huh.”

And however easy Rachael Ray was on McCain, it’s only fair to point out that she also fluffed Michelle and Barack Obama, telling them in early August, “I just wanted to say it is such an exciting, wonderful time to be an American, and I think your campaign really has created this great wave, this great fervor.” In the ensuing interview with Michelle, Ray asked innocuous questions about whether the couple gets date nights (they do) and what “their song” is (Nat King Cole’s “Unforgettable” and Stevie Wonder’s “You and I”).

But none of this holds a candle to what has been going on at “The View,” where ringleader and show creator Barbara Walters has, as reported by Jacques Steinberg in the New York Times, been making “a conscious effort to insert their daytime talk show forcefully into the nation’s political conversation this fall.”

It’s worked.

Consider John McCain’s much-discussed Sept. 12 appearance on the program, which began as he settled comfortably and confidently into the couch. By the time the interview ended, he had conceded that he did not want to reenslave black people and weathered sharp questions about how many earmarks Sarah Palin had put in for as Alaska governor. As his wife, Cindy, later complained to a rally, the daytime hostesses with the mostest had “picked our bones clean.” Indeed, it was the finest and most direct questioning John McCain has received during his campaign, or on the issues, from anyone in the mainstream media.

The conversation with McCain was powerful enough to prompt former President Bill Clinton to get himself booked on the show. And while the women treated him with a bit more reverence, they did stick him with some honkingly direct questions — about whether he or his wife had wanted Hillary to be Obama’s running mate, about what Clinton thought of Palin — that were controversial enough for Clinton to make news by answering them (with his current tone-deaf ambivalence about the election).

But most mornings on “The View,” neither presidential candidates, nor their spouses, are on the couch. Most days, the first 10 minutes are devoted to frequently high-pitched arguments about the day’s headlines, the election and the financial crisis in which everyone is involved — including Sherri Shepherd, who once admitted that she had never voted before. These are conversations that often prove the hosts to be well-informed and opinionated. These ladies are a regular “McNeil-Lehrer News Hour” for the late-morning set, with Hasselbeck as the benighted Republican bugaboo.

On an early October episode, Goldberg kicked things off by suggesting that, “If we were gonna be surging anywhere, we should have surged our behinds into Afghanistan!” and chiding McCain for relying too heavily on the success of the surge as a talking point.

Soon Hasselbeck was yelling words like “Rezko! Ayers!”

“No, excuse me,” interjected Shepherd, who seems increasingly radicalized, especially in response to Hasselbeck’s conservatism. “McCain was involved in the Keating Five.”

Behar shouted, “You go, Sherri!”

When Behar, whose investment in this election has landed her repeatedly on “Larry King Live” and who was (somewhat depressingly) dubbed by the New York Times’ Frank Rich as “the new Edward R. Murrow” after the McCain interview, brought up the clip of CNN’s Campbell Brown lighting into the “sexist” McCain campaign for keeping the media away from Sarah Palin, Walters said, “I don’t think it’s because she’s a woman. I think it’s that they fear she may make a mistake because she’s uninformed.”

Behar countered, “If she were an uninformed male, would they allow her to speak to the press?”

Walters replied, “If it were an uninformed man they might have the same barrier.” And then, Rachel Maddow-style, to some unseen McCain campaign entity: “We would like to say, once more, that we would like to have Mrs. Palin on the program.”

Best of luck with that request, ladies!

After last week’s vice-presidential debate, Hasselbeck had (unsurprisingly) recovered from her moment of doubt about Palin’s capabilities. She asserted that the Alaskan governor had done a good job. Shepherd, meanwhile, was dismayed by Palin’s refusal to answer moderator Gwen Ifill’s questions, and Walters found the whole thing utterly unrevelatory, although she was bothered by the fact that Palin brought young Trig onstage so late at night.

When Hasselbeck groused about how, like any mom, Palin probably just wanted her kids around her, Shepherd cut her off: “Barbara didn’t say she was a bad mom!” she corrected. It wasn’t long before Hasselbeck returned to her favorite complaint about Obama: his associations with Weather Underground co-founder Bill Ayers.

“Bill Ayers surrendered,” Goldberg said, explaining gently, for the umpteenth time, to Hasselbeck that “he, like a lot of us in a certain generation, were pissed at the United States of America. Some were more radical than others … he turned himself in. I assume he rehabilitated himself. I don’t recall anyone in 2001 saying, ‘Let’s go get Bill Ayers because he’s a terrorist.’”

Soon came conversation about how people’s pasts are people’s pasts, and that McCain had his own Keating past. “John McCain was cleared of any charges!” said Hasselbeck.

“It was poor judgment,” said Walters.

But Hasselbeck was undeterred. “This is what bothers me truly about Barack Obama,” she said. “He wants to hide all of his radical connections.”

“It’s crap,” said Goldberg.

“It’s not crap,” shot back Hasselbeck.

“It’s crap,” repeated Goldberg, officially, sending the program to commercial while the crowd cheered wildly.

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McCain skewered on “The View”

Barbara Walters and co-hosts grill the presidential nominee with hard-hitting questions the press has been too squeamish to ask.

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Roll your eyes all you want, but I for one will never again underestimate the women of ABC’s “The View,” who today opened a can of whupass on John McCain, administering an interview that should turn the faces of legitimate press red with shame. (A video of the second segment is embedded below. All clips can be viewed here.)

The hard-hitting journalism came courtesy of none other than Whoopi Goldberg, Barbara Walters, Joy Behar, Sherri Shepherd and Elisabeth Hasselbeck (yes, even conservative sylph Hasselbeck threw down!), who welcomed McCain to their comfy couch on Friday morning as the spider welcomes the fly. As soon as he settled in and got nice and comfortable, the women proceeded to slice and dice the Arizona senator on everything from his dishonest attack ads to his stance on abortion and interpretation of the Constitution, his feelings on secularism and the qualifications of his running mate.

First up were McCain’s recent ads, including one implying that Barack Obama wants to offer sex ed to kindergartners, and another asserting that Obama used the phrase “lipstick on a pig” in reference to Sarah Palin, when in fact he applied it to McCain policy. “There are ads running from your campaign,” said Joy Behar, “now we know that those two ads are untrue, they’re lies.” Here Behar was using words that the press has been too squeamish to utter to McCain’s face. She went on, “And yet, you at the end of it say you approve these messages. Do you really approve them?” Such a simple, straightforward question. One that someone should have asked McCain days ago.

When McCain replied that his ads were not lies, Walters quickly stepped in to point out to him that “you yourself said the same thing about putting lipstick on a pig.” McCain responded that his use of the folksy turn of phrase was in reference to a healthcare plan, and Walters again cut him off, saying, “But [Obama] talked about change. He wasn’t talking about Sarah Palin.”

McCain was left twisting, his only out the weak rejoinder, “Senator Obama chooses his words very carefully.” At that moment, it seemed that McCain himself does not.

In the second segment, Whoopi Goldberg introduced McCain after a commercial break, jocularly asking if she was still allowed to call him J-Mac, then punching him in the gut with “a straightforward question … because I’m curious about your choice for vice president: Do you believe in the separation of church and state?”

Let’s take just a moment and offer a tip of the hat to Goldberg (and her colleagues), for homing in on the simplest iteration of what has been on the minds of many since they began to read about Palin’s evangelical beliefs, her reading of God’s will into the mission of Iraq, her belief in banning abortion even in cases of rape and incest.

Goldberg pressed McCain on whether or not, given the fact he assured her that, “sure,” he believes in secularism, he experienced “a moment of pause” before selecting Palin, since, “god forbid anything happen” to him, she might be in control and not share his views on this linchpin of our democracy.

“Judeo-Christian values were the foundation of our nation. In God we trust,” McCain unreassuringly responded. “[There was] clearly a belief that God has a plan for the world and that we should do what we can to live as good a life as we can and trust that God — in God we trust — will guide this nation and this world to a better existence. You’re entitled to … not believing in God, but I think we should respect the views of those who believe in God and believe that we are a special nation … And we believe that God does play a role, not in whether we win or lose elections, but whether we have a better world and a better future and better lives.”

Gulp?

After trying to interject about 20 “buts,” Goldberg finally was able to restate her question, which was that, since this is a nation filled not only with Judeo-Christian believers but also with “Muslims … Zoroastrians … [and] Wiccans,” as president, should he win, would McCain govern this nation “as God would have you do it, or do you govern this nation for the greater good of the people in it?”

McCain replied, “I think everybody, obviously, is entitled to their individual faiths and beliefs, including not believing in anything. But I pray every day.”

Next up was Hasselbeck. Promising McCain “no softballs coming from me, even though you have my vote,” the youngest “View” co-host asked him if he, and in turn if Palin, would work to overturn Roe v. Wade. McCain said that though he’d impose no “litmus test” on nominees to the court, “they would have to have a clear record of strict interpretation” of the Constitution. Here Walters tag-teamed again, clarifying that this was simply “another way of saying ‘people who would want to overturn Roe v. Wade.”

When McCain responded by saying he thought “Roe v. Wade was a very bad decision, Barbara,” the “View” audience audibly booed him, and when he continued to talk up his interest in a strict interpretation of the Constitution, Goldberg piped up, wondering, “Do I have to worry about becoming a slave again? … Because there are certain things that happened in the Constitution that had to change.” To this, all McCain could say was, “I understand that point. Thank you. That’s an excellent point. I thank you.” (Walters did score a lifetime’s worth of wacko points for her weird reassurance to Goldberg and Shepherd, “Don’t worry, us white folks will take care of you!”)

Finally, Barbara Walters, showing teeth she hasn’t bared in years, pressed McCain — and I mean, with a steam iron — on what his running mate meant in her interview with Charlie Gibson on Wednesday when she said she was chosen to “reform” Washington. Given that McCain himself has been a working inhabitant of the country’s capital for 22 years, what or whom, wondered Walters, was Palin supposed to reform? “You?” she asked McCain incredulously. “The Senate? Congress? The Republican Party?”

“The Democrats have been in charge of both houses of Congress for the past two years,” McCain said hopefully, clearly trying to help flesh out the Republicans’ bizarro-world story line that the liberals (cunningly disguised as George Bush, Dick Cheney, Karl Rove and Donald Rumsfeld) have been running the country.

But Walters wasn’t having it. “She was chosen to reform the government. Who is she going to reform?” she asked again. McCain tried to argue that, with a flick of her wand, his Change Maker from up north would transform everything: “The Republican Party, the Democratic Party, even the Independent. She’ll reform all of Washington!”

But Walters wasn’t mollified. “How?” she hammered. “How? What is she going to reform specifically?” When McCain replied that she would do just what she did in Alaska, like clean up earmark spending, Walters said, “She also took some earmarks.” Not as governor, McCain claimed (despite the fact that Palin put in for a load of earmarks in the past year). When McCain said she freed Alaska from debt for the first time, Walters pooh-poohed it. “OK, but what’s the biggest reform –” And that’s when McCain finally got testy, saying, “You’ve got to let me finish” and explaining how Palin gave government back to the people of Alaska. “What is she gonna do in Washington?” replied an unimpressed Walters. “The same thing,” said McCain.

This whole exchange, all of it, was not only great television, but a series of great questions from a group of people who seemed not to be interested in pussyfooting around. “The View” hosts appeared not to be worried about being labeled elitist (perhaps because their show is populist by definition) or leftist (perhaps because one of them is a staunch conservative) or sexist (perhaps because they are all women and know that to question a candidate’s actual qualifications for a job, not based on gender but on experience and beliefs and policy history, is the opposite of sexist).

But the best part, perhaps, was that after making McCain writhe in agony for the first two segments, after eating him for breakfast — Mmm! Delicious! — the ladies of “The View” were such coldblooded professionals that they were able to usher McCain’s wife, Cindy, on and kibitz with her about cookie recipes for the remainder of the show.

Top that, CNN.

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Rebecca Traister

Rebecca Traister writes for Salon. She is the author of "Big Girls Don't Cry: The Election that Changed Everything for American Women" (Free Press). Follow @rtraister on Twitter.

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