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Jeb Bush and what the GOP really thinks about 2012

They'll never say it publicly, but are Republicans privately putting their bets on Obama?

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Jeb Bush and what the GOP really thinks about 2012Former Fla. Gov. Jeb Bush talks about the major overhaul of Florida's public education system during his eight years in office, at the state Capitol in Oklahoma City, Wednesday, Aug. 11, 2010. (AP Photo/Sue Ogrocki)(Credit: Sue Ogrocki)

The unusually productive lame duck session of Congress that wrapped up just before Christmas, I wrote at the time, symbolized how much our political culture has learned from 1994, when Democrats were hit with a midterm drubbing almost identical to the one they suffered this past fall.

That ’94 debacle, at least initially, terrified Bill Clinton and his fellow Democrats into a state of paralysis. Sixteen years later, though, Barack Obama simply acknowledged the “shellacking,” went back to work, and soon found himself signing the repeal of “don’t ask, don’t tell” and extracting an unexpected $300 billion in stimulus through a compromise with Republicans. No one was seriously questioning his relevance as president, and even conservatives were willing to concede that his odds of winning reelection in 2012 were still pretty good, despite the massive midterm losses.

The difference, of course, is that everyone in politics today is familiar with the story of Clinton’s fairly rapid post-’94 recovery. They know better than to write off Obama, who actually scores slightly better in polling now than Clinton did at this same point in his presidency.

I bring this all up because it’s the first thing I thought about earlier this week when news broke that Jeb Bush isn’t ruling out running for president … in 2016. Of course, there won’t be a Republican nomination for Bush to pursue in ’16 if a Republican unseats Obama in ’12, but what was striking about his comments and the reaction they generated is that no one seemed too hung up on this point. The contrast to late ’94 and early ’95 is striking. Back then, if a major Republican ruled out running for the presidency in 1996, no one was interested in speculating on whether that Republican might simply be waiting to run in 2000. Clinton, everyone knew, was a dead man walking. If you were a major Republican and you aspired to the presidency, you would have to run in 1996; to sit the race out would be to give up on the White House for good.

One way of interpreting Bush’s statement, then, is that he — like many Republicans, especially if you talk to them privately — understands that Obama (for now, at least) is more likely than not to win a second term in 2012. So if Bush, who is 57 now, really does want to be president, it’s probably a smart gamble to wait. The urgency that he would have been feeling back in late 1994 and 1995 — if you don’t run now, you’ll regret it forever! — is missing.

To be fair, there are other reasons Bush might be ruling out a ’12 run; maybe he just wants more distance from his brother’s tenure, or maybe he really isn’t that interested in being president. And even if Bush and other Republicans do privately believe that Obama is a good bet for ’12, a lot can change between now and then. Bill Clinton, don’t forget, probably wouldn’t have become president if every Democratic heavyweight hadn’t concluded in 1991 that George H.W. Bush would be unbeatable in 1992.

But Bush is also not the only Republican making noise about ’16; Chris Christie and his camp are sending the same message. Like Bush, Christie may have other reasons to wait; he was just sworn in as governor a year ago (a job he spent nearly a decade positioning himself for), and he knows that he probably can’t return from a losing national campaign in ’12 and win a second term in Trenton in 2013. But if more ambitious Republicans start sending the same signals — especially given how wide open the ’12 GOP field seems — it will be strong evidence that deep inside, Republicans are sensing that 2012 will be an Obama year.

Steve Kornacki

Steve Kornacki writes about politics for Salon. Reach him by email at SKornacki@salon.com and follow him on Twitter @SteveKornacki

Monday link dump: Embracing Harold Ford

The American Spectator's bizarre Sherrod smear, McCain's poll numbers, the Alvin Greene media blitz, and Jeb

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Alex Pareene writes about politics for Salon and is the author of "The Rude Guide to Mitt." Email him at apareene@salon.com and follow him on Twitter @pareene

Jeb Bush chided for attending Rand Paul event

Democrat Jack Conway says the Florida governor is tarnishing family legacy

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A Kentucky Democrat running for U.S. Senate says former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush is tarnishing his family legacy by appearing at a fundraiser on behalf of Republican Rand Paul.

Bush is set to attend a fundraiser for Paul’s U.S. Senate campaign in Louisville on Monday, the 20th anniversary of the Americans With Disabilities Act. Jack Conway says Bush is helping a candidate that doesn’t fully support the act, which was signed into law by Bush’s father, former Republican President George H.W. Bush.

Paul campaign manager Jesse Benton said Conway is distorting Paul’s position on the act. Paul said earlier this year that he doesn’t want to repeal the law, but that it can create hardships for small businesses forced to install elevators.

A call to Jeb Bush’s Miami office wasn’t immediately returned.

Wednesday link dump: Testing the filthy, oily waters

Jeb Bush's probable campaign, a questionable outing, Elena Kagan-smearing, and odd Politico edits

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Alex Pareene writes about politics for Salon and is the author of "The Rude Guide to Mitt." Email him at apareene@salon.com and follow him on Twitter @pareene

Some good news for Obama

It's early still, but a new poll shows the president gaining ground on potential opponents

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President Obama can rest a little easier tonight, as a new poll shows him leading potential Republican opponents in 2012.

Yes, of course, that election is three years away, and it’s absurdly early to be talking about it, much less polling on it. But this survey — conducted by Public Policy Polling, a Democratic firm — does have some interesting results beyond the topline.

First of all, it does appear that Obama’s rebounding after a difficult summer, expanding his lead against the various potential challengers.

And then the performance of those challengers is interesting in and of itself. Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee continues to be the strongest performer against Obama, with 41 percent of respondents saying they’d vote for him against 48 percent for Obama. Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney does pretty well, too, with 39 percent of respondents opting for him over the same 48 percent for Obama.

But Sarah Palin, until recently the governor of Alaska, is slipping. The percentage of respondents who say they have a favorable opinion of her has fallen to a dismal 37 percent, versus 55 percent who view her unfavorably. And in a general election matchup against Obama, she does worse than a guy who has Bush for a last name. 37 percent of those polled said they’d vote for former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush over Obama, who got 50 percent in that particular head-to-head. On the other hand, while 38 percent of respondents did choose Palin over Obama, it seems that her name on the ticket drove an additional three percent to the president.

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Alex Koppelman is a staff writer for Salon.

Jeb Bush is making sense

The former governor expresses concern about the Republican Party's trouble appealing to Hispanics

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Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush remains cursed by his last name: He’s always seemed smarter and more politically savvy than his brother, and were it not for the stigma of the second Bush administration, he’d be one of the GOP’s leading lights right now, if not its presidential candidate last year. And he’s still able to diagnose one of his party’s biggest problems right now.

Speaking to Tucker Carlson about the current state of the Republican Party for an interview published in Esquire, Bush put his finger on the single issue that could end up crippling the GOP to come, the lack of Hispanic support and the active denigration of Hispanics by some of the louder voices on the right.

“The people that are on television are the loudest on the immigration issue. The emotion, the anger, is a signal. Put aside the substance, but just in terms of the language. It makes it sound like them and us. And the evidence is that after [the GOP] making major inroads, Hispanics have turned toward the Democratic party in the last two election cycles. Big time. Compare that to how my brother did and how I did and how other Republican candidates have done in the past and you can see a trend line that’s quite disturbing,” Bush said.

Then asked by Carlson if you can be against illegal immigration without coming off as anti-Hispanic, Bush responded, “It’s possible but it requires a tone that’s different. If you listen to the conversation, it’s not just words; it’s how they’re spoken. It has to be dispassionate, the language. But it hasn’t been.”

Of course, later in the interview Bush said, “The Democrats have won on tactics. Barack Obama would not have gotten elected if he’d let us in on his secret plan prior to the election.” But hey, nobody’s perfect. 

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Alex Koppelman is a staff writer for Salon.

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