Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton

Donald Trump on his Hillary flip-flopping: I'm only a hypocrite because all businessmen have an obligation to be one

He only pretended to like Hillary Clinton because he was "running a major company where I need things"


Scott Eric Kaufman
September 11, 2015 7:29PM (UTC)

On Thursday's edition of "On the Record with Greta Van Susteren," Republican front-runner Donald Trump called in to discuss his problematic remarks about Carly Fiorina's appearance, and it didn't take long for Van Susteren to annoy the GOP's potential nominee by reminding him that it's by no means the first time he commented on a woman's appearance.

He insisted that the his statement was about her "persona," but Van Susteren reminded him that "the remark was explicitly about her 'face' and not her 'persona.'" She also noted that the dust-up inspired Hillary Clinton to tell attendees at a recent rally that "I have to say, if [Trump] emerges, I would love to debate him."

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Trump replied that the feeling was mutual, saying "I can't think of anybody I'd rather debate, as she was the worst secretary of state in the history of the United States. Beating her in a debate would be one of the easiest challenges of my life."

Van Susteren pointed out that in 2012, Trump told her that Clinton was "a fantastic secretary of state" and "a terrific woman" who "works hard really hard and does a good job." But "somehow between 2012 and today she's gotten awful," Van Susteren said, "so what happened?"

Trump humbly explained that in the course of building $10 billion in net worth, it was his "obligation to get along with everybody who is a politician. I got along with Nancy Pelosi. I got along with Harry Reid."

"Were you pulling my leg in 2012?" Van Susteren asked.

"No," Trump had the temerity to reply, "I'm not going to say bad things about major politicians in this country when I'm running a major company where I need things. I have international trade, I have international businesses. I'm not going to go around saying bad things about people. There's no reason to."

Unless, of course, he genuinely believes those "bad things" to be true, as he's saying now. Van Susteren should have pressed him further, asking him what he would think of Clinton's time at State if she were to win the White House in 2016, but instead she just let the issue of his opportunistic hypocrisy drop.

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Watch the entire conversation below via Fox News.

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Scott Eric Kaufman

Scott Eric Kaufman is an assistant editor at Salon. He taught at a university, but then thought better of it. Follow him at @scottekaufman or email him at skaufman@salon.com.

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