Photo courtesy of Nancy Niemi

College alone isn't closing the gender wage gap

Women are working more in school to earn less: "Being smart isn’t going to make me a man"


Lauren Schiller
January 4, 2018 11:58PM (UTC)

Women are surpassing their male peers in college graduation rates. That’s a good thing for gender equality, right?

Well . . . it’s complicated.

According to Nancy Niemi, director of faculty teaching initiatives at Yale and my recent guest on "Inflection Point," women are earning more degrees out of necessity, just to to catch up with men.

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“Not only do we need college degrees, we need more college degrees just to be equal in pay to men who don’t get college degrees,” Nancy told me.

Can we just stop for a minute and contemplate what this means?

The conventional wisdom is that education is the great equalizer. Nonprofits and schools have been striving to give girls all around the world access to the same quality of education that boys get, precisely so girls can have the same advantages and go on to earn and achieve at the same level.

In fact, several popular studies that were out when Niemi pursued her Ph.D. 15 years ago claimed that in the rush to get girls engaged in higher education, boys had become disadvantaged academically and would likely go on to earn less than their female peers.

“I thought, ‘Hmm. I’m not seeing that,’” Niemi said. “And I spent a whole year observing students and seeing how boys and girls interacted, how teachers interacted and I could sum that work up by one sentence, which one young woman said.”

What was that?

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“She said, ‘I could do all that boys do, but being smart isn’t going to make me a man.’”

How is it that women who graduate from college don’t make as much as men who didn’t graduate from college?

And is anyone else enraged over the amount of time and expense women invest in achieving academic success and breaking into exclusively male fields only to be told, essentially, “sorry, but it’s still not good enough?”

Niemi's research, which is summed up in her new book, "Degrees of Difference," shows that the shifts in power and cultural norms work in tandem to change the value of the work that women do.

“A lot of men gravitate towards that ethos of ‘I want to be successful’, ‘I want to be rich’, ‘I want to own my own business’ . . . and women, by cultural understanding, don't.”

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According to Niemi, there’s a strange cultural phenomenon that happens the moment women enter a profession.

“It’s happened in family medicine, in clinical work in many fields, particularly in law, in veterinary medicine . . . whenever women come to dominate a field, the field is diminished in value by pay and status.”

Nancy cited the field of psychology, which has shifted from majority male to majority female in the span of 40 years. Meanwhile, the more specialized "scientific" — read "higher paid" — roles within the field, like neuroscience, continue to be dominated by men.

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“We have to keep [earning even more] degrees in order just to make it as far as men who have little to no college education might be making it in terms of salary, and in terms of status and in terms of impact and power.”

Okay. As a Vassar-educated progressive, this is getting depressing. Is she really saying that getting a higher education is NOT a path to achieving equality?

“If we step back and think about it, why would it be?” Nancy said. “We don’t all come into higher education . . . as blank slates. We don’t come in with an absolutely clean and equal background at any level of education, from kindergarten on up. So why would we come in and think our college education was going to make us equal?”

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So should women even go to college?

Nancy says an emphatic “yes!” But she does want us to be realistic: “When we get the degree, we need to be wide-eyed that that alone isn't going to gain women the power that we think it will. We've got to still look at the other messages in the other places like law and politics — and all of the power that comes from those . . . then manifest it in making changes in those places too, because they all work in tandem to create equity.”

Listen to the full conversation:

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Lauren Schiller

Lauren Schiller is the creator and host of Inflection Point, a podcast and public radio show from KALW and PRX featuring stories of how women rise up. For more rising up stories, follow Lauren on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to the podcast on Android or Apple.

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