Rumsfeld on Rumsfeld

Our radio kept cutting in and out, but we think we got the gist of what the secretary of defense had to say.

By Tim Grieve
Published June 27, 2005 1:50PM (EDT)

We didn't actually see Donald Rumsfeld on Meet the Press over the weekend, but we did get to hear him -- or at least some of him -- on the C-SPAN Radio rebroadcast in our car. The radio kept cutting in and out as we drove, but we think we got the gist of it:

"You know, the suggestion that things go nicely or good in a war is just not the case. . . . Mm-hmm. . . . I see people look at it and say, 'Well, my goodness, what about this? What about that?' Well, that's always been true. . . ."

"I don't remember . . . . Well, there are various ways to measure it. . . . Now, what does that mean? Does it mean that the insurgency's stronger? Is it in its last throes? The last throes could be violence, as you well know from a dictionary standpoint. . . . "

"Who knows? Time will tell. . . . I just don't know. I can't speak to that. . . . I never estimated the cost of the war. And how can one estimate the cost in lives or the cost in money? I've avoided it consistently. And how can that be a misestimate?"

"Tough to know. I don't know the answer to the question. I didn't then and I don't know. . . ."

"I don't do politics. . . ."

"I didn't say that. . . ."

"No. I think -- maybe I'm wrong. I don't go to these meetings. "

Tim Grieve

Tim Grieve is a senior writer and the author of Salon's War Room blog.

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