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Will Trump pivot? He hasn't proven he's capable, says NBC's Katy Tur

Trump bullied the journalist during the 2016 campaign. Tur shares stories from the trail in memoir "Unbelievable"

Published September 14, 2017 4:58AM (EDT)

"It was like being on a rollercoaster," Katy Tur, NBC News correspondent, told Amanda Marcotte on "Salon Talks," of President Donald Trump's seemingly endless taunts towards her. The bullying, she said, happened on the campaign trail "since day one."

Tur is the author of "Unbelievable: My Front-Row Seat to the Craziest Campaign in American History." It's her first-person account of living out of a suitcase for a year-and-a-half as she followed Trump to 40 states and produced more than 3,800 live television reports, all while enduring his jabs and fact-checking his charges.

"Everywhere I went people, and still to this day, people will ask, what was it like to be there? What was it like to be there in that pen, in those crowds? What was it like to deal with Donald Trump? What was he like behind the scenes?" she said. "And so I found that this was probably the story that more people wanted to hear."

As the title of the book suggests, her stories are bizarre, intense and insightful.

"They wouldn't let us go to the bathroom without a chaperone," Tur said of the dynamic of the press pen at Trump's rallies. "Who were they trying to protect here? Is it for our protection, and if so, why do we need that protection? Or is for the protection of the voters? Are we not supposed to talk to them? It didn't really make a lot of sense at the time."

For those who thought that Trump as president would be transformed from the bombastic, antagonistic and unstable figure he presented on the campaign trail, well, Tur knows better.

"They thought that he was going to change, that the office was going to change him, getting the nuclear codes would sober him up," Tur said. "That hasn't happened."

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By Rachel Leah

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