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"Truth isn't truth": Rudy Giuliani tries to explain why Donald Trump won't testify on Russia

The former mayor of New York created another meme Sunday after he embraced the post-truth world Donald Trump wants


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Taylor Link
August 19, 2018 6:04PM (UTC)

What is truth and what isn't is usually a question philosophers ponder. But on Sunday, President Donald Trump's lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, openly wondered if the existential question will get his client into legal jeopardy.

In an interview on "Meet the Press," Giuliani told host Chuck Todd that truth is subjective and therefore there is no need to investigate it.

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"Look, I am not going to be rushed into having him testify so that he gets trapped into perjury," Giuliani said Sunday. "And when you tell me that, you know, he should testify because he's going to tell the truth and he shouldn't worry, well that's so sill because it's somebody's version of the truth. Not the truth. He didn't have a conversation."

Todd responded to the diatribe by declaring, "Truth is truth."

"No, it isn't truth," Giuliani countered. "Truth isn't truth. The President of the United States says, 'I didn't . . .'"

"Truth isn't truth?" Todd said, interrupting the former mayor of New York. "Mr. Mayor, do you realize, what I . . ."

After Giuliani affirmatively said that the truth cannot be regarded as the truth, Todd predicted the interview was "going to become a bad meme."

It has. Here are some of the reactions on Twitter:

Watch the exchange below:


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Taylor Link is an assistant editor at Salon. You can find him on Twitter at @taylorlink_

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