Fox News host Chris Wallace confronts Kellyanne Conway for dodging his impeachment questions

"You haven't answered my question. You're kind of pivoting off it," Wallace told Conway during the exchange

By Matthew Rozsa
January 23, 2020 2:21AM (UTC)
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Kellyanne Conway, Chris Wallace and Donald Trump (Getty Images/AP Photo/Salon)

Fox News anchor Chris Wallace called out White House counsel Kellyanne Conway for dodging his question about a possible link between President Donald Trump withholding $391 million in aid to Ukraine and his request that the European country open an investigation into his political rivals.

"You haven't answered my question. You're kind of pivoting off it," Wallace told Conway during the exchange Tuesday night.


Wallace reiterated his question about the timing of the Ukrainian aid, pointing out to Conway that Trump only released the aid after a whistleblower reported the contents of the president's July 25 phone call to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and Democrats moved forward with an investigation.

"Yes. Why wouldn't it be?" Conway replied after Wallace asked whether this was a coincidence. "In other words, nobody has presented any evidence that it wasn't, and nobody's presented any evidence that the president ever intended to not have Ukraine get that aid and in fact they have it."

Earlier in the interview, Wallace told Conway while although Trump "has given far more lethal aid [to Ukraine] than the other president, President Obama, who gave blankets," that fact did not negate that "his particular ride to $391 million, which had been approved by Congress certified by the Defense Department that Ukraine was not corrupt. This president held it up. He releases it after the whistleblower story comes out after Adam Schiff says he got caught and he had delayed so long that Congress had to pass a new law to release the aid further."


After Conway accused Wallace of "knitting together" a timeline, the Fox News anchor pointed out that the timing was "clear."

"I think you're looking at causation, but it could be coincidence," Conway said. "And the reason I say this is the White House the White House was aware of the whistleblower before the report came out. We were aware of that in August. So the whistleblower report may have been made public to the press, or frankly, to the public. But the president's lawyers are aware of that."

Later during their conversation, Conway insisted that "nobody's presented any evidence that the president ever intended to not have Ukraine get that aid, and in fact, they have it."


Conway has aroused controversy before in her attempts to defend Trump during the impeachment scandal. She compared the president to Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., telling reporters Monday that it was not "within Dr. King's vision to have Americans dragged through a process where the president is not going to be removed from office — is not being charged with bribery, extortion, high crimes or misdemeanors. And I think that anybody who cares about 'and justice for all' on today or any day of the year will appreciate the fact that the president now will have a full-throttle defense on the facts."

Trump is the third president to be impeached, along with Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton. Richard Nixon, though nearly impeached, resigned from office. Trump is accused of abuse of power for his efforts to pressure Ukraine into announcing an investigation into former Vice President Joe Biden and the Democratic National Committee, as well as obstruction of Congress.


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Matthew Rozsa is a staff writer for Salon. He holds an MA in History from Rutgers University-Newark and is ABD in his PhD program in History at Lehigh University. His work has appeared in Mic, Quartz and MSNBC.

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