Chris Smalls, the founder and president of the Amazon Labor Union, explains why he's done waiting for cooperation from Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, the third richest man in the world. "The man is not cut from the same cloth as me," he told Salon's D. Watkins. "Why would I want to talk to him?" Smalls described the international solidarity he's working to build for the ALU — even despite the $14 million Amazon has spent on anti-union consultants — and why he's hopeful about getting a union contract for Amazon workers and the resurgence of the labor movement.