Author and TV host Marc Lamont Hill offers his take on the meaning of justice in America. "We are challenged to get any kind of justice and democracy in this country. It just ain't there," Hill told Salon's D. Watkins on "Salon Talks. "As an abolitionist, I say, well, this system can't give us justice. Policing isn't the answer. Prisons ain't the answer." Watch the full "Salon Talks" episode to hear more about Hill's new book "Seen and Unseen," about the George Flyod: https://www.salon.com/tv/video/pkp3mf